Six Gray Wolves in Washington Were Fatally Poisoned, Officials Say (NY Times)

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Dustin Chromers

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.22 snake shot

This constant overarming for ticks is a waste of time and money...
I've successfully handled hundreds of ticks with this setup, and never had to face down an angry, wounded and cornered tick...something you never want to do.

If you pollute your body like I do ticks don't even bother. I've never had one bore into me.
 

Gyrfalcon22

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If you pollute your body like I do ticks don't even bother. I've never had one bore into me.
mac and cheese w/ketchup and ample soda has kept me from getting anything internally or something latched to my skin. I could harvest bees naked and not get stung I am guessing. If I die in nature my intact remains will be an oddity 5000 years from now from natural embalming. Vultures would not touch me I bet.
 

Divad

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Oh, come on! This community is riotously entertaining when it comes to wolf, bear, cougar, snake, and tick threads! Similar to "what gun should I carry for (insert: wolf, bear, cougar, snakes, and ticks)?

I'd hope we could agree that poisoning is pretty damn tacky behavior in any event. The WA wolf management plan likely isn't perfect, but it does a pretty good job of threading the needle between ESA compliance to recover modest wolf populations while allowing lethal removal for individual and even entire packs that repeatedly prey on livestock.
I’d argue the WA management plan has failed. Furthermore reducing the trust these farmers have on the management plan as a whole. Of the ~$1.5M per year, $100k went to Ranch Riding, a tool far more successful than others currently at livestock control.

Sadly, ranchers had to petition themselves for the state to even allow the tactic in the management plan. If you asked them how to spend the million, “put it all to ranch riding”.

Currently over $1M is going to research, that’s roughly $7-8k per WA wolf per yr. They must be well versed in depredation no-no’s.

There is a disconnect in long term strategy and what works. Call me crazy, but you should invest more than 10% into what works before knowing well research holds a key (10+ yrs no key thus far). Funny thing is that ~$100k to ranch riding is an incredibly scrutinized ledger. Now about that 900k…🫣

Something tells me a bunch of upturned politicians don’t want to hear there research budget is going to direct farmer payouts for ranch riding, to the tune of half a million.
 

Dustin Chromers

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I’d argue the WA management plan has failed. Furthermore reducing the trust these farmers have on the management plan as a whole. Of the ~$1.5M per year, $100k went to Ranch Riding, a tool far more successful than others currently at livestock control.

Sadly, ranchers had to petition themselves for the state to even allow the tactic in the management plan. If you asked them how to spend the million, “put it all to ranch riding”.

Currently over $1M is going to research, that’s roughly $7-8k per WA wolf per yr. They must be well versed in depredation no-no’s.

There is a disconnect in long term strategy and what works. Call me crazy, but you should invest more than 10% into what works before knowing well research holds a key (10+ yrs no key thus far). Funny thing is that ~$100k to ranch riding is an incredibly scrutinized ledger. Now about that 900k…🫣

Something tells me a bunch of upturned politicians don’t want to hear there research budget is going to direct farmer payouts for ranch riding, to the tune of half a million.

I should have been a conflict resolution specialist.

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Billy

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I should have been a conflict resolution specialist.

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As a deer and elk hunter I am pissed beyond belief not because I want more deer or elk for myself but because of the utter and complete waste of money this mess has become. We pay in for a plan and we get zero freaking management.

Just do what Idaho does. Offer a few wolf tags up to help prevent conflict and to manage the deer and elk herds that are struggling. This isn't rocket science.
 

Tom Butler

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As a deer and elk hunter I am pissed beyond belief not because I want more deer or elk for myself but because of the utter and complete waste of money this mess has become. We pay in for a plan and we get zero freaking management.

Just do what Idaho does. Offer a few wolf tags up to help prevent conflict and to manage the deer and elk herds that are struggling. This isn't rocket science.
The black and grey one I saw was in the area I emailed you about last winter.
 

swimmy

An honest tune with a lingering lead
Francine Madden.....now that is a fleecing worthy of a contract extension.

Dude, all of this for only $425,000 a year?

"In transforming conflict over wolves in the US, tigers in Bhutan, mountain gorillas in Uganda or ecological restoration in the Galapagos, her efforts have consistently enabled the social capacity and conditions for long-term creative, collaborative and shared progress to ensure communities, indigenous peoples, interest groups, industry and governments – and the natural resources they value and depend on – thrive. Additionally, her efforts have led to institutional and societal changes, including increased social cohesion in otherwise divided societies, empowerment of marginalized communities, racial and gender equity, reduced criminality, and more inclusive and effective governance. Finally, Ms. Madden ongoing efforts to build capacity in and empower a diverse and broad network of CCT practitioners around the world so they, too, can support positive peace and shared wins for people and conservation."

I disagree with those who say Western Washington is full of woke idiots.
 

O' Clarkii Stomias

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Dude, all of this for only $425,000 a year?

"In transforming conflict over wolves in the US, tigers in Bhutan, mountain gorillas in Uganda or ecological restoration in the Galapagos, her efforts have consistently enabled the social capacity and conditions for long-term creative, collaborative and shared progress to ensure communities, indigenous peoples, interest groups, industry and governments – and the natural resources they value and depend on – thrive. Additionally, her efforts have led to institutional and societal changes, including increased social cohesion in otherwise divided societies, empowerment of marginalized communities, racial and gender equity, reduced criminality, and more inclusive and effective governance. Finally, Ms. Madden ongoing efforts to build capacity in and empower a diverse and broad network of CCT practitioners around the world so they, too, can support positive peace and shared wins for people and conservation."

I disagree with those who say Western Washington is full of woke idiots.
Every adjective and adverb out of the DEI handbook.
 

Jim F.

Still a Genuine Montana Fossil
If an orca ate a wolf, what would WDFW do?

Or what if a wolf ate an orca?
Issue another hang tag & simplify fishing and hunting regs again. Oh & double Francine's contract . . .
 
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