Axel - predator in training
Although he looks pretty chill:
Although he looks pretty chill:
SFR Cats and salmon...
- Thread starter Shad
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Sorta fishing-related
Beautiful!
I generally did for my own cooking preferences, but I don’t think you’d have to.
I think your cat will still eat it with the scales.
SF
I bet they would, but I'm not gonna let him do that to himself!Cats don't care about scales...but they will not eat Humpies...
While dogs have definitely lost the plot since being domesticated, cats have not. They are all feral at heart. If I had a salmon bearing stream on my property it wouldn’t surprise me in the least to find a half eaten salmon on my door mat. I’ve given my two cats raw salmon scraps plenty of times and don’t think twice about it. They really love the cooked skin and the bones. That’s a real treat to them. They don’t have the same issue with salmon poisoning as dogs, so raw fish is just another predators meal to them. I’m sure they’d prefer it alive and trying to escape. Cats are killers, and I appreciate that about them except when they let the prey loose in the house.
If I put a salmon on the back deck to fillet and leave to get a knife my cat will have started. She loves raw salmon and albacore. She's very healthy and is clearly stoked on raw fish.
Sounds like we could both benefit from having a good dog. To take care of those critters you mention and to let me enjoy feeding birds without worrying about cats. However as far as I can determine your comment about windows killing the same number of birds is unfounded. Anything we can do to help wild birds is worthwhile. Your cat kills bunnies and weasels?
Cats won't get salmon poisoning... never say never, I guess. There are other things that could possibly be in raw fish that might lead to problems, but nothing specifically identified. Freezing is pretty good at killing parasites (but not bacteria), cooking is the easiest way.
We have talked a bit about this before, but the salmon poisoning infections process is pretty interesting. There is a bacteria (Neorickettsia) inside a parasite Nanophytus) inside the fish, that causes the actual disease in canines. The bacteria doesn't cause disease in the fish (or in the parasite), but it gets out of both hosts and causes disease in the dogs.
My dog got salmon poisoning from licking grass after I had cleaned a steelhead, there was basically only slime and washings from the fish that were on the grass.
Apparently dogs can also get it from eating salamanders.
We have talked a bit about this before, but the salmon poisoning infections process is pretty interesting. There is a bacteria (Neorickettsia) inside a parasite Nanophytus) inside the fish, that causes the actual disease in canines. The bacteria doesn't cause disease in the fish (or in the parasite), but it gets out of both hosts and causes disease in the dogs.
My dog got salmon poisoning from licking grass after I had cleaned a steelhead, there was basically only slime and washings from the fish that were on the grass.
Apparently dogs can also get it from eating salamanders.
He doesn’t look at all chill to me. Look at those calculating eyes, sending distance and trajectory information to his brain. In a tenth of a second, his claws could be in your skin! That’s what I love about cats; they’ve never been really tamed. I love dogs too, but there’s just something about living with a wild animal that pretends to be a “pet.”
Sorry to thread drift from cats, but does anyone know if the salmon poisoning is an issue with salt caught salmon? I may need to be a little more careful with my fish processing at home.
Much, much less likely from salt water fish, so says my parasitologist buddy. It is a freshwater thing.
FinLuver
Native Oregonian…1846
Current cat hates canned tuna…
Interesting topic.
There are populations of wolves in coastal BC and SE Alaska that eat salmon, apparently without consequences. I have videos stashed away that my father took of wolves catching and devouring salmon in a creek up there somewhere. Not only is it a common annual occurrence, but salmon is a staple part of their diet, along with other seafood.
Some studies show that this population of wolves only eat the head in order to avoid the toxicity. But it’s hard to understand how that would keep them from contacting other parts of the fish that could affect them. Perhaps this particular strain of wolves have evolved to not be affected by it.
Apologize for the thread drift away from cats.
Divad
Whitefish
YES! The cats near the family cabin kill multiple ducklings every spring and run amuck on others properties. I find this infuriating as cat owners will always say "oh but they cause no harm, they're fine." They sh!t outside on neighboring property which is also annoying. Meanwhile my dog is under supervision, when he poops I pick it up, he doesn't go murdering the waterfowl or hummingbirds and doesn't prance around on others property. Blows me away people think letting your cat out is okay.
I pretty much agree with this. Seems like the kill ratio on species I LIKE to species we call "pests" was always at least 3:1. Loved seeing dead/dying rats on the porch; little song birds not so much.
Even if you don't care about what your cat can (and probably will) do to wild critters, you ought to consider what can happen to your cat out in the wild. I lost two amazing cats this way... just straight up disappeared and never came back after years of great companionship. If you want to be sure to keep them around, keep them inside. That you're helping out the local wildlife may or may not be a great bonus....
brownheron
corvus ossifragus
Especially in coyote country which is pretty much everywhere except downtown these days. One sat just outside my fence this weekend and watched me mow half my yard before trotting off. Probably to go eat the neighbor's Bichon or cat that they let wander around...
Agreed on the other posts. I love cats and would always keep them inside except for a few cases like where the benefits of a barn mouser outweigh the impacts.
