The flyshop parking lot brawl would mostly consist of old retired farts laying on the asphalt because they threw their backs out while engaging in a sissy slap boxing exchange.
But I'd kick ass, except for this damned bum leg.
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But I'd kick ass, except for this damned bum leg.
My Hapkido sensei used to claim the best defense in a bar fight was an excellent pair of running shoes...
be good to keep this thread about Ukraine without getting back into the personal political muck...no one's minds will ever be changed on a forum of how they view the past 5 years...if anything, it does offer a stark contrast between a democracy enduring a severe cultural clash and a democracy being literally invaded by motherfuc*ers who want to kill it....
charles sullivan
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Man, that's dark.
There is a whole lot of good stuff out there.
kerrys
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Also, I didn’t get this ugly by keeping my mouth shut…sometimes an opinion not shared results in less stitches at the emergency room.
Dustin Chromers
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Dustin Chromers
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No personal or political implications intended. A splash of relevant levity was all that was intended.
Andrei V Kozyrev (@andreivkozyrev) Tweeted:
2. Russian military. The Kremlin spent the last 20 years trying to modernize its military. Much of that budget was stolen and spent on mega-yachts in Cyprus. But as a military advisor you cannot report that to the President. So they reported lies to him instead. Potemkin military
2. Russian military. The Kremlin spent the last 20 years trying to modernize its military. Much of that budget was stolen and spent on mega-yachts in Cyprus. But as a military advisor you cannot report that to the President. So they reported lies to him instead. Potemkin military
cody-
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"The authorities of the Republic of Poland, after consultations between the President and the Goverment, are ready to deploy – immediately and free of charge – all their MIG-29 jets to the Rammstein Air Base and place them at the disposal of the Government of the United States of America.
At the same time, Poland requests the United States to provide us with used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities. Poland is ready to immediately establish the conditions of purchase of the planes.
The Polish Government also requests other NATO Allies – owners of MIG-29 jets – to act in the same vein."
Finally something official on getting Ukraine planes their pilots can fly
At the same time, Poland requests the United States to provide us with used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities. Poland is ready to immediately establish the conditions of purchase of the planes.
The Polish Government also requests other NATO Allies – owners of MIG-29 jets – to act in the same vein."
Finally something official on getting Ukraine planes their pilots can fly
Sorta like 'Wet Side Story', when the Wet Side Indicator Crew threw down against the Eastern WA Bobber Bunch....lots of ungainly portly dancing and pointless arguments about level leeches, hotspotting, and the Designated Hitter Rule.
And none of the combatants had enough hair to sport a greasy ducktail anymore.
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wanderingrichard
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Dustin,
George the Younger allowed his administration to get backed into a corner by Cheney and Rumsfeld. Both who grew up in politics with his dad.
The late Gen. Colin Powell, then ambassador to the UN, later admitted as much and stepped away from political life soon afterwards.
Distasteful as it was for him, having served under him, I can almost guarantee you that he questioned the decision in private, but put his misgivings aside and did what his, president required of him.
Look you want to talk more about that hit me up privately. Lets get back to Ukraine
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wanderingrichard
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Krusty,
Sorry , but the image of "The one legged man in an ass kicking contest" came immediately to mind.
Dustin Chromers
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I don't disagree one bit with your above statements.
Hooray for getting more planes to Ukraine. But--How is this going to work? Poland gives their MIGs to the U.S., and the U.S. provides different planes back to Poland in exchange or to fill the gap? And then the U.S. gives the Polish MIGs to Ukraine? Why doesn't Poland just send the MIGs straight to Ukraine? It doesn't seem to preserve any appearance of not contributing arms, and we are doing that already anyway."The authorities of the Republic of Poland, after consultations between the President and the Goverment, are ready to deploy – immediately and free of charge – all their MIG-29 jets to the Rammstein Air Base and place them at the disposal of the Government of the United States of America.
At the same time, Poland requests the United States to provide us with used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities. Poland is ready to immediately establish the conditions of purchase of the planes.
The Polish Government also requests other NATO Allies – owners of MIG-29 jets – to act in the same vein."
Finally something official on getting Ukraine planes their pilots can fly
Because if Poland gives all their miss to Ukraine, it's essentially their airforce. They just want some air capability, and we are the ones with that capability.
Everyone knows nato and other other countries are supplying arms, it's not a secret, been in the papers for a while now.
wanderingrichard
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I've read Poland would get F16's and last gen F 15's in place of the MiG's.
But that exchange mechanism?? Extremely strange.
Defense Link News, via LinkedIn newsfeed, stated Monday that Poland will be buying M1A2 SeP V3's starting in 2 years. That's one generation behind what we are currently fielding to our own forces ( if you think you know M1, be prepared for a shock. The current iterations are light years different. Its basically a whole new tank)
wanderingrichard
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Ok, I see what is going on. If you read further down article, it explains that Poland had just upgraded their MiG's and the more sensitive electronics would have to come out before transfer.
And, they're getting 30+ F35's in 2 years. With zero mentioned F15's like I parroted earlier.
POLITICO: 'Surprise move': U.S. stunned by Poland's fighter jet offer.
www.politico.com
And, they're getting 30+ F35's in 2 years. With zero mentioned F15's like I parroted earlier.
POLITICO: 'Surprise move': U.S. stunned by Poland's fighter jet offer.
'Surprise move': U.S. stunned by Poland's fighter jet offer
“We do not believe Poland’s proposal is a tenable one,” Defense Department spokesperson John Kirby said.
www.politico.com
Thank you. So--"Some of the new, sensitive technologies installed on the MiGs would likely have to be pulled out before transferring to the Ukrainians." Is that because Ukraine isn't part of NATO and so aren't allowed to have that tech? Or do they not want to risk Russia capturing the transferred tech from Ukraine?Ok, I see what is going on. If you read further down article, it explains that Poland had just upgraded their MiG's and the more sensitive electronics would have to come out before transfer.
And, they're getting 30+ F35's in 2 years. With zero mentioned F15's like I parroted earlier.
POLITICO: 'Surprise move': U.S. stunned by Poland's fighter jet offer.
'Surprise move': U.S. stunned by Poland's fighter jet offer
“We do not believe Poland’s proposal is a tenable one,” Defense Department spokesperson John Kirby said.
Mingo
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Could be, or because the tech is just too advanced and their pilots don't have the luxury of time to learn every bell and whistle. Not sure exactly.
we are witnessing a Tom Clancy novel in real time here......
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