NFR Ukraine...Little Did I Know
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Rob Allen
Life of the Party
I think anyone who fought against ISIS is well aware of the atrocities committed in war. Not as sure about Afghanistan but since it's the same group of fine young men I am not sure that matters.
At this point NATO forces could expell Russian troops from Kyiv and surrounding areas in a matter of hours then the rest of the country in a matter of days and put a stop to all this madness.
wanderingrichard
Life of the Party
Ok, the following is a,bit of a political hit piece, but its written by a fellow veteran who has watched Putin closely.
All rhetoric aside, it helps bring perspective. Please try to absorb it objectively :
The Hill: Vladimir Putin provides an eye-opener for his GOP fans in America | TheHill.
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All rhetoric aside, it helps bring perspective. Please try to absorb it objectively :
The Hill: Vladimir Putin provides an eye-opener for his GOP fans in America | TheHill.
Vladimir Putin provides an eye-opener for his GOP fans in America
It is essential that the U.S. do everything in its power to assist the Ukrainians in their life-or-death struggle with the Russian dictator.
wanderingrichard
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Rob Allen
Life of the Party
Sorry the first sentence was more or less a lie. So didn't read it.Ok, the following is a,bit of a political hit piece, but its written by a fellow veteran who has watched Putin closely.
All rhetoric aside, it helps bring perspective. Please try to absorb it objectively :
The Hill: Vladimir Putin provides an eye-opener for his GOP fans in America | TheHill.
Vladimir Putin provides an eye-opener for his GOP fans in America
It is essential that the U.S. do everything in its power to assist the Ukrainians in their life-or-death struggle with the Russian dictator.
This is a lie? How so?
“Ever since Donald Trump assumed the presidency with the support of Vladimir Putin, the Russian leader has enjoyed a confoundingly high favorability rating among the Republican base.”
Let's try to avoid the political stuff so the thread can stay open and not turn into a WFF type of shitshow full of bullshit posted by morons.
You can always send a PM and tell the other motherfcker just how full of sh!t he is, and arrange to meet up so you can kick his ass.
You can always send a PM and tell the other motherfcker just how full of sh!t he is, and arrange to meet up so you can kick his ass.
Rob Allen
Life of the Party
The implication is that Trump didn't legitimately win the election. That is ALL I meant.
Thank you for the explanation.
I don’t interpret the sentence to say that. I take it at face value. Won with support. Doesn’t say the support resulted in the win. But we can move on from this. More about the author in case you are at all interested and might look again: “Jim Jones is a Vietnam combat veteran who served eight years as Idaho attorney general (1983-1991) and 12 years as a justice on the Idaho Supreme Court (2005-2017). He is currently a regular contributor to The Hill.”
Mingo
Life of the Party
Man....I totally hear you and agree. It is a shitty feeling watching this brutality play out on the news. And it really makes the pettiness of so many aspects of our own culture seem ridiculous by comparison. I tried watching a piece on how MLB players feel they're getting "screwed by the owners" and they flashed the average MLB salary on the screen. I had to change the channel...
Then I saw a piece on how Russia, China and India are joining hands and will soon trade with each other completely outside the purview of the US dollar. That can have devastating effects on our own economy. So that is risky and potentially dangerous for us.
Then I see ten pieces on unprecedented international condemnation and coordination and responses to this brutal attack and I feel maybe humanity has a chance and perhaps we'll finally band together and put a stop to the predations of this cold blooded killer.
It's like we live on top of a giant emotional seesaw these days. Which sucks.
I've been donating to help feed the victims in and outside Ukraine. In some tiny little way, it makes me feel slightly less helpless.
wanderingrichard
Life of the Party
Is ok, Rob. We have freedom to read what we want in this country. Won't hold it against you.
Dustin Chromers
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A bar fight and a night or two in jail should be on a pre forty bucket list for any man of dimension and character. The most interesting men I know don't wonder about these things. They are quietly dangerous with a calm that makes friends feel secure and foes feel uneasy. If it hasn't happened by forty then the time for a righteous brawl is gone. After that it's just an old drunk causing trouble. You should loose one as well, badly. Temperance for what one does to their enemies isn't a weakness. There is great strength in pardoning someone of violence even if they are asking for it. You won't know when until you're gained some experience with such things.
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jaredoconnor
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That's not what the linked article says. All it says is that Trump was endorsed by Putin, which is true.
I will go a step further, though. I highly doubt China and Russia have directly manipulated polls, as some folks believe. However, anyone that thinks China and Russia aren't influencing American voters is living under a rock. Their bots are all over the internet, spreading propaganda everywhere they can. For example, there is ample proof that anti-vax and QAnon type content has been used to create havoc in the US.
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Dustin Chromers
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I'll bet at least that many Americans supported going into Iraq on the premise that we sort of think there are WMD's there. There weren't, at least that we found, and we went to war for basically George's personal feelings and Cheney's financial gain. That doesn't mean those Americans are mean spirited. It means that they believe the bad information the government they trust gives them. Happens all the time and some believe the same lies over and over told different ways.I was "right on" with your view up until this article and other media outlets starting shedding a different side to the story. I don't think the comments you are addressing are as tone deaf as you might think. And yes, I have seen the thousands of Russian dissenters/protestors arrested. Brave people ruled by autocratic insanity!
Nearly 60% of Russians support Putin’s war against Ukraine
60% of Russians support Putin's war against Ukraine after the invasion. 50% of Russians' attitudes towards Putin changed for the bettereuromaidanpress.com
jaredoconnor
Peabrain Chub
My post about throwing hadokens and winning the babes shouldn't have provoked a serious response.
In any case, I will offer an alternative perspective. I have been in exactly zero bar fights, because I'm not a psychopath that goes looking for such things and I'm capable of defusing/avoiding them. However, I have witnessed a number of my friends engage in such activities. I've learned everything I need to know from that. Ie. not to get in bar fights.
Dustin Chromers
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My post about throwing hadokens and winning the babes shouldn't have provoked a serious response.
In any case, I will offer an alternative perspective. I have been in exactly zero bar fights, because I'm not a psychopath that goes looking for such things and I'm capable at defusing/avoiding them. However, I have witnessed a number of my friends engage in such activities. I've learned everything I need to know from that. Ie. not to get in bar fights.
Going looking makes one an asshole. To not slink away at signs of trouble makes you secure. And I said interesting men of dimension and character.
Some people learn the smart and easy way by observing others. As a young jarhead I was not one of those people, but I'd like to think I got better at doing so as I aged.My post about throwing hadokens and winning the babes shouldn't have provoked a serious response.
In any case, I will offer an alternative perspective. I have been in exactly zero bar fights, because I'm not a psychopath that goes looking for such things and I'm capable of defusing/avoiding them. However, I have witnessed a number of my friends engage in such activities. I've learned everything I need to know from that. Ie. not to get in bar fights.
My dimensions did indeed expand, and some people have told me I'm a character...is that what you mean?
Dustin Chromers
Legend
Let's try to avoid the political stuff so the thread can stay open and not turn into a WFF type of shitshow full of bullshit posted by morons.
You can always send a PM and tell the other motherfcker just how full of sh!t he is, and arrange to meet up so you can kick his ass.
The rivers are all closed. What boat launch would I suggest for the fisticuffs? If I'm leaving the house ins pandemic for that I need some fishing to justify the gas.
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