Over thinking it.

Tell me about it!

I'm very much in the "gear whore" phase of my angling journey. If I don't catch fish, by God, it won't be because I didn't have the right tactics and gear covered... or, so I like to think.

Earlier this year, I took an extended trip and fished in Florida, New Mexico, and Utah. I thought about trying to do salmonflies in Montana, too, but it became clear that would be one stop too many, so next time.... Anyway, I brought all kinds of salt and freshwater gear and flies, to the point where my giant suitcase was half filled with fishing gear. At trip's end, I had used about 5% of it (and caught lots of fish!). That said, I had few regrets, because I never found myself wishing I had something.

The worst overkill on preparation, by far, ended up being for Utah. I had been there last year (about a month later), and I had tough fishing until I found a dropper/dry combo that worked pretty well on my last day. Before that, I had tried streamers, double nymph setups, terrestrials... everything I could think of, with very little success. This year, I prepped heavy for the dry/dropper thing. The fish weren't responding to ANY of what had worked the year before. Turned out they were keyed into the caddis hatch so much that caddis was all they were looking for. I had only a few caddis imitations, and most of them weren't working. I had one, lone, purple X-Caddis in my box, and it proved to be the ticket. What had seemed like impossible fish instantly became stupid. I caught lots of browns between 17 and 22 inches, a few nice rainbows, and even a rare cutthroat, all on the same dry fly. I finally broke it off while trying to land a hog. None of my other caddis patterns were working, so I decided to go smaller with a midge pattern. A No-see-um got it done. Anyway, I figure I tied about 100 flies for that trip, and I ended up catching all my fish on two.

The trouble is that we can do research and learn about what MIGHT be happening at our destination when we get there, but we don't know what's ACTUALLY happening until we're there, so we have to prepare for every possibility we can imagine. That inevitably leads to overkill. The more we learn about a given fishery, the more in tune we become, but it takes years of fishing the same place to get it dialed.

We tend to fool ourselves, too. 20 years ago, I fished woolly buggers and Muddlers, with the occasional orange stimulator or steelhead caddis, all off the same rod/floating line, just about everywhere, and I caught at least as many fish as I do today. Hmmm....
 
My kayak flyfishing started out many years ago in small kayaks with very minimal gear onboard...and expanded to the point I was routinely carrying a huge gearbag in the rear cargo area of my biggest SOT kayak....along with a soft cooler.

Eventually it led to a very messy capsize which, despite the fact I was using a large offshore capable kayak with a massive weight capacity, rolled when I reached over the gunwale to retrieve a fly stuck in the lillypads....because I had severely altered the craft's center of gravity by carrying too much gear too high (as well as by raising the seat to maximum height to facilitate seated casting).

Nowadays all of my gear, other than the flyrods and net, fits inside a small tub in the cockpit hatch...plenty of flies, spare leaders, assorted tippets, indicators and stuff I actually use....rather than stuff to make me feel equipped to handle anything.

Sometimes...less is more.
 
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Tell me about it!

I'm very much in the "gear whore" phase of my angling journey. If I don't catch fish, by God, it won't be because I didn't have the right tactics and gear covered... or, so I like to think.

Earlier this year, I took an extended trip and fished in Florida, New Mexico, and Utah. I thought about trying to do salmonflies in Montana, too, but it became clear that would be one stop too many, so next time.... Anyway, I brought all kinds of salt and freshwater gear and flies, to the point where my giant suitcase was half filled with fishing gear. At trip's end, I had used about 5% of it (and caught lots of fish!). That said, I had few regrets, because I never found myself wishing I had something.

The worst overkill on preparation, by far, ended up being for Utah. I had been there last year (about a month later), and I had tough fishing until I found a dropper/dry combo that worked pretty well on my last day. Before that, I had tried streamers, double nymph setups, terrestrials... everything I could think of, with very little success. This year, I prepped heavy for the dry/dropper thing. The fish weren't responding to ANY of what had worked the year before. Turned out they were keyed into the caddis hatch so much that caddis was all they were looking for. I had only a few caddis imitations, and most of them weren't working. I had one, lone, purple X-Caddis in my box, and it proved to be the ticket. What had seemed like impossible fish instantly became stupid. I caught lots of browns between 17 and 22 inches, a few nice rainbows, and even a rare cutthroat, all on the same dry fly. I finally broke it off while trying to land a hog. None of my other caddis patterns were working, so I decided to go smaller with a midge pattern. A No-see-um got it done. Anyway, I figure I tied about 100 flies for that trip, and I ended up catching all my fish on two.

The trouble is that we can do research and learn about what MIGHT be happening at our destination when we get there, but we don't know what's ACTUALLY happening until we're there, so we have to prepare for every possibility we can imagine. That inevitably leads to overkill. The more we learn about a given fishery, the more in tune we become, but it takes years of fishing the same place to get it dialed.

We tend to fool ourselves, too. 20 years ago, I fished woolly buggers and Muddlers, with the occasional orange stimulator or steelhead caddis, all off the same rod/floating line, just about everywhere, and I caught at least as many fish as I do today. Hmmm....


So what you’re saying is you need to add a fly tying kit to your bag next year?
 
So what you’re saying is you need to add a fly tying kit to your bag next year?
I LOL'd because I DID bring tying materials with me to Florida last year. And no, I never used them, except to teach my brother in law how to tie gurglers for the neighborhood bass ponds. But yeah, I did a bunch of research on the Green, and nobody was talking about the epic caddis hatch, which was probably the best dry fly fishing I have experienced, all things considered. Go figure, and yes, it would have been handy to have stuff on hand to tie more X-Caddis. The shops down there are pretty good. But they didn't have many, and they weren't the "magic" color.

Next year, I will probably be under-prepared for a different hatch. All part of what keeps fishing fun and interesting.
 
So what you’re saying is you need to add a fly tying kit to your bag next year?
I've long taken some fly tying stuff with me on extended trout trips especially. It has really paid off a few times in terms of being able to either tie more of the magic fly, or coming up with a magic fly, be it a hatch-matcher or whatever else. I really like tying in camp, maybe more than at home.
 
I LOL'd because I DID bring tying materials with me to Florida last year. And no, I never used them, except to teach my brother in law how to tie gurglers for the neighborhood bass ponds. But yeah, I did a bunch of research on the Green, and nobody was talking about the epic caddis hatch, which was probably the best dry fly fishing I have experienced, all things considered. Go figure, and yes, it would have been handy to have stuff on hand to tie more X-Caddis. The shops down there are pretty good. But they didn't have many, and they weren't the "magic" color.

Next year, I will probably be under-prepared for a different hatch. All part of what keeps fishing fun and interesting.

I've long taken some fly tying stuff with me on extended trout trips especially. It has really paid off a few times in terms of being able to either tie more of the magic fly, or coming up with a magic fly, be it a hatch-matcher or whatever else. I really like tying in camp, maybe more than at home.

Ha, I said this as a joke. But have also seriously considered it. I just don't go on enough "long" trips where I find it could be necessary (I blame the 6 year old kid for this, ha!). Tying in camp does sound awfully pleasant.
 
Good Luck on your trip Paul - hopefully the fishing is better than it has been the last couple of years.

I just got my butt handed to me in CO last weekend and as I was sitting in my pontoon boat trying to figure things out and came to the realization that I too maybe out thinking things a bit as well. I used to catch a lot of fish when I had a single 5wt rod with just one reel & line, a Type III rull sink. Now I string up at least three rods with multiple lines. Taking way too much time setting up and I have so much gear that I am more worried about me losing my gear bag or it getting ripped off. Need to revert back to a more simplistic approach.

I just retired today and off to some of my favorite Eastern Oregon Stillwaters tomorrow. Still a bit warm out there, but water temps should be OK. I am going to just start with a single rod with the Type III - but I do have to admit I discovered the Midge-Tip lines from RIO that has been fun to fish casting to risers. The pain of choice :).

Peach
 
Earlier this month Freestone and I did a 14 day road trip through Glacier, Yellowstone and the Tetons that exposed us to some big time rivers. We met at Thompson Falls, Mt then on to Glacier where we camped on the Flathead and the NF Flathead. Although we didn't bill it as a fishing trip we did fish when we got the chance. We had stops at Holter Dam on the Missouri, the Gallatin, Baker's Hole on the Madison, saw the Fire Hole, Gibbon, Slough Creek and others then back to the Madison at Ennis, spent a night at Rock Creek and the last night on the Thompson River in NW Montana.

The weather was warm, the water was low and the number of fly fishermen in Yellowstone was just amazing. I bought the obligatory $40 permit but never bothered to use it as I assumed there were about 4 fishermen for every fish in the rivers. We had a great trip despite the fishing and stayed at 13 different campsites in 14 days. I was well prepared to fish and bought about $100 worth of flys in Craig but never used them.

Today I took a float tube to a neighboring lake and fished for about 3 hours. It was slow at first with just a few small cutts but as the day wore on and the shadows grew longer things picked up. In the last half hour I caught more and bigger fish than I had on the entire 14 day road trip. On a Blob!
 
Ha - that was one of the lakes I hit last weekend and still got my ass handed to me. Funny thing is that the reports have been very good so far and continue to be so, but I guess it just wasn't my day :).
If only you had brought more stuff!😂
And congratulations on your retirement.
 
I use this: works great!
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I have the same bag! Really useful!
Remember taking many boxes of flies on first trip to Rock Creek. But did stop in Missoula at the fly shop, and bought three flies at their suggestion. Used those to tie, and all worked very well. A pump revealed some variation so more ties. Never touched about six boxes. And took an unintended swim (note to self, always zip up or Velcro pockets) and several unused boxes were liberated. Got one mailed back the following year, I had put a return postage sticker in it!
Ron
 
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^^^^ That bag has traveled to RC yearly for several decades. Many warm afternoons spent with it and was put to great use. I also supported The Merc every year. I flew to Missoula and tied flies with Doug and local tyers on weekends during the winter months. The bag was always with me. One of the best purchases I have made....
 
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