Gear Review Echo 8wt OHS Review: Old, but Still Reliable

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Disclaimer:

The following review of the Echo 8wt OHS has some critiques of the rod. I've realized there are a lot of loyal OHS fans on this forum, and I'll admit the rod is an acquired taste that works great for the people who cherish it. If you disagree with my opinion and experience, then I ask that you do so respectfully. I'm happy to hear that people like their rods, and I also want to hear about their experiences and line setups. (added on 02-12-2025)

My History with the 8wt OHS:
After buying the OHS in June of 2020, I fished it until the guides started freezing later in November. After buying a switch rod, the OHS began collecting dust. That was until I moved to a place that featured smaller tannic creeks instead of the larger glacial systems I grew up on. Since last fall, this rod has caught its second wind to help me winch in steelhead and coho.

Where the Echo OHS 8wt Shines:
If there’s one thing I can give this rod, it’s a tough blank. I have beat through some hellish brush with this stick, and it refuses to break a sweat. It’s dueled with some very large coho and steelhead here in Alaska and I’ve never felt undergunned.
For fishing larger rivers, this rod is outdone by 11’ switch rods and the longer spey rods. In my findings, this rod is best for creeks and pocket water where you’re casting in a phone booth of brush and you need to horse in a steelhead from a log jam. Throw a 300 gr OPST head or overweighted nymphing line on, and you’re going to have a pleasant time in the creeks I just described. Whether you want to swing or dead drift, this rod can get your fly out there and muscle in your targeted species.


My Impressions:
If you’re looking for a fine-tuned piece of engineering that’s an extension of your arm, then this isn’t the rod for you. I’d explain this elderly rod as a battle axe that you have to negotiate with. I’ve gotten this rod to plop flies into some tight windows, but I’ve felt the repercussions at the end of the day. The other thing this rod shares in common with a battle axe is its swing weight. 4 years ago, I could show up to a river on no sleep and fuel myself with a few cheap beers held in my wading jacket. A lighter fly rod was like a quality ale, I simply hadn’t had one so I couldn’t tell you how cheap Miller Lite actually tasted or how unpleasant this rod was. Now that I’m older and wiser, I prefer quality brews and lighter fly rods.



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In case you needed proof: I would often chase salmon, pound Miller Lite, and wield this mighty OHS.

What I’d Change:
Simply put, I’d stop making this rod or make an updated version if I were Echo. When the OHS first came out in 2017, it filled a huge niche. Nowadays, it’s a heavy rod (153 g on my scale) with old hardware that caters to a very select market. Just recently, the uplocking nuts on my reel seat had the linings pop loose and now they have to be sent into Echo for repair. The cork is also a little underwhelming for the mid price tier.

Does 4” Make a Difference:
At 10’4”, the Echo OHS is in a class of its own. The added length does make a larger D-loop when performing a roll cast, and it also gives the user an advantage when mending line for the perfect drift or swing. When it comes to distance, that extra 4” will also give the user more reach when overhead casting.
The drawbacks of the extra 4” is the added swing weight and reduced accuracy. This is not a rod for entry-level fisherman, especially at $500. If you’re wanting the advantages of a 10' rod without the extra 4” and swappable fighting butts, then there are a plethora of rods that are either more pleasant all day or cost half the price.


$670Sage Sonic
$598Orvis Recon
$595G. Loomis IMX Pro V2
$580Loop ZX
$500Echo OHS
$249Orvis Clearwater
$200Echo Ion XL
While there is nothing exactly like the OHS, there are alternate options with 10’ 8 wt rods.


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Though it's a lot to fish with, this rod has gone toe-to-toe with some leviathans.

Final Words:
I know there are a lot of people who love their OHS rods, and I’m not trying to ruffle any feathers. I haven’t casted the 6wt or 7wt versions, but they’re likely more pleasant than my 8wt. In 2025, there are many better options for people and their budgets if they want that extra reach and backbone before investing in a switch rod. I would not suggest going out and spending $500 on a new 8wt OHS without doing some research or testing, but I would suggest paying around $200 for a used one. It does perform well in its chuck-n-duck niche of small brushy streams or for bombing out some line if you have the room to do so.

About the author:

I’ve been fly fishing since I took a college course on the subject at the University of Alaska Fairbanks. Since then, I’ve assimilated myself with the ways of fishing the Pacific Northwest while pulling inspirations from the worldly anglers I meet. I used to have plans to become a fly fishing guide, but 2020 had a different idea. Thankfully, I’ve been able to fund my hobby through the telecommunications trade. I might not give away all my secrets, but I’m happy to share some thoughts and opinions on the internet.

R-E-S-P-E-C-T:

The writing contributions and reviews I make to this forum are just my personal opinions and experiences, no need to get nasty or take things personally if we disagree. This forum is a place to share and learn, and I just want to better myself as a fisherman and writer. If you don’t share my opinion, then I’m happy to discuss our different takes in a friendly manner. (also added on 02-12-2025)
 
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You say it's a heavy rod, but what about comparing it to others? At 10'4", there's an additional 4" of blank vs the other ones you compare to and has an extended bottom handle. The rod is actually quite light for what it is. Still definitely niche, but I wouldn't describe it as heavy.

What it's really awesome at is big water indicator fishing ;)
 
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Weird review.

Count me as a big time niche fan of the 8wt OHS.
And if anyone has a 6 wt OHS they want to offload for $200, please let me know! I'll throw in another $50.
 
Weird review.

Count me as a big time niche fan of the 8wt OHS.
And if anyone has a 6 wt OHS they want to offload for $200, please let me know! I'll throw in another $50.
Yeah, I love others coming here with reviews and want to encourage it, but I think a more apples-to-apples comparison to other rods would do better in this case. The OHS is doing something differently than the other rods listed. Its length is between the 10' "nymphing" style rods and the smallest "switch" rods. To me, it's an actual, true switch rod since rods sold as a switch rod are really just small speys that are terrible at overhead casting due to the action flexing way too low into the bottom section of the blank.

The OHS has an action that truly does work for both overhead and spey cast, finding a balance between loading deep enough for water-loaded spey casts, but not loading so deep when lined for overhead casting to make those casts sloppy.

I still think it's a great rod and has a pretty wide range of capabilities with the right line.
 
Yeah, I love others coming here with reviews and want to encourage it, but I think a more apples-to-apples comparison to other rods would do better in this case. The OHS is doing something differently than the other rods listed. Its length is between the 10' "nymphing" style rods and the smallest "switch" rods. To me, it's an actual, true switch rod since rods sold as a switch rod are really just small speys that are terrible at overhead casting due to the action flexing way too low into the bottom section of the blank.

The OHS has an action that truly does work for both overhead and spey cast, finding a balance between loading deep enough for water-loaded spey casts, but not loading so deep when lined for overhead casting to make those casts sloppy.

I still think it's a great rod and has a pretty wide range of capabilities with the right line.
I often do a hybrid cast with mine, using a Wulff Ambush line. Spey cast as appropriate to flip the head out, backcast overhead with a haul, haul on the forward cast, and all the line loops in my hand go flying out.

edit, and I agree that the listed rods are not really comparable. In fact it's hard to find a rod to compare it to. It's an outlier, it's niche, and that is its strength IMHO.
 
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Yeah, I love others coming here with reviews and want to encourage it, but I think a more apples-to-apples comparison to other rods would do better in this case. The OHS is doing something differently than the other rods listed. Its length is between the 10' "nymphing" style rods and the smallest "switch" rods. To me, it's an actual, true switch rod since rods sold as a switch rod are really just small speys that are terrible at overhead casting due to the action flexing way too low into the bottom section of the blank.

The OHS has an action that truly does work for both overhead and spey cast, finding a balance between loading deep enough for water-loaded spey casts, but not loading so deep when lined for overhead casting to make those casts sloppy.

I still think it's a great rod and has a pretty wide range of capabilities with the right line.
I took some time to think about your constructive criticism, and all I can say is "they can't all be zingers".

I made a few additions to further explain my opinionated review. You're right about the 4" difference of the OHS, but I can do almost everything more pleasantly with just a 10 footer. I think this rod has its place, but I don't think it's still worth buying in 2025 for $500. That doesn't mean I think people shouldn't hold onto their 8wt OHS rods or love them any less. I just wanted to offer readers my opinion of a fly rod I've owned for almost 5 years, even if it wasn't a glowing review.

A good friend of mine wanted to fish steelhead last April and he asked for a rod recommendation. I found a Loop Opti K2 10' 8wt for $200 on eBay. While on the 8 day trip, we swapped rods for an afternoon to compare our setups. He wasn't a fan of my OHS whatsoever and he also noticed its swing weight. For a $200 rod, I loved nymph fishing his lighter and less taxing Opti K2 so much that I bought one of my own and I plan to use it a lot this spring. I didn't list it as an alternate 10' 8wt option since Loop sadly doesn't make it anymore.

Even though our opinions differ on this rod, I still wish you tight lines.
 
The OHS is the (THE) single greatest big-water indicator rod ever made. Turbo-rolling a double 3/0 shot rig on a 12' leader is pretty easy with this twig, as is reaching out to the mid-river bars 80'-90' away.

While I did read a bunch of bitching about a half-ounce, nowhere in your "review" did you comment about the "feel" of the rod, both while casting/fishing and fighting fish. The OHS (again) is a joy to cast for experienced casters, is a great technical tool for the mends required to properly fish an indicator at distance, and is one of my favorite rods with which to fight fish. The taper is such that 18" trout put a fun bend in it, but when the 30"+ class of trout come calling, you're not undergunned. The stiff butt / med-fast action / stiff tip make it a great rod with which to brawl big fish.
Another ommission- the foregrip is slightly longer than nearly all other 9 and 10 foot rods, giving the angler an easy way to negate any weight issues by re-gripping up or down the handle. This changes the perceived weight of the rod at both he handle and the tip.
It is my opinion you swung and missed at this review. The OHS, in the right hands, is a great rod.
 
I think its actually good to see reviews from both people that love a rod, and maybe those that have some critical thoughts or points to make.

But let's remember to be respectful. The shoe ain't gunna fit everyone the same and that's ok.

I appreciate @SEAK907 taking the time to do a gear review and hope to see more!
 
The OHS is the (THE) single greatest big-water indicator rod ever made. Turbo-rolling a double 3/0 shot rig on a 12' leader is pretty easy with this twig, as is reaching out to the mid-river bars 80'-90' away.

While I did read a bunch of bitching about a half-ounce, nowhere in your "review" did you comment about the "feel" of the rod, both while casting/fishing and fighting fish. The OHS (again) is a joy to cast for experienced casters, is a great technical tool for the mends required to properly fish an indicator at distance, and is one of my favorite rods with which to fight fish. The taper is such that 18" trout put a fun bend in it, but when the 30"+ class of trout come calling, you're not undergunned. The stiff butt / med-fast action / stiff tip make it a great rod with which to brawl big fish.
Another ommission- the foregrip is slightly longer than nearly all other 9 and 10 foot rods, giving the angler an easy way to negate any weight issues by re-gripping up or down the handle. This changes the perceived weight of the rod at both he handle and the tip.
It is my opinion you swung and missed at this review. The OHS, in the right hands, is a great rod.
It appears I ruffled the feathers of a diehard OHS fanatic. I'm happy to hear you like the rod and that it serves you well.

Rather than just disrespectfully make jabs at me, I challenge you to take your own swing at detailed OHS gear review and best me. Who knows? Maybe you'll reveal your OHS setup and inspire me to use this rod again. May the best review win!
 
It appears I ruffled the feathers of a diehard OHS fanatic. I'm happy to hear you like the rod and that it serves you well.

Rather than just disrespectfully make jabs at me, I challenge you to take your own swing at detailed OHS gear review and best me. Who knows? Maybe you'll reveal your OHS setup and inspire me to use this rod again. May the best review win!
I'd say that if you post a review that has a strong opinion like "Echo should stop making this rod," you should expect a strong response. I would expect similar with a "this is the best rod ever and the only one this company should make."

Your opinion and insight are certainly valid and we want to see more here. Take this as an opportunity to fine-tune your craft and others can agree to disagree. Or, just because it's fun, continue to post strong opinions so we can have internet fights :D
 
Rather than just disrespectfully make jabs at me, I challenge you to take your own swing at detailed OHS gear review and best me. Who knows? Maybe you'll reveal your OHS setup and inspire me to use this rod again. May the best review win!
No.

To clarify, that's not how it works. "I didn't do a good job, so I want you to do it" isn't really a strategy to success.

It might behoove you to post somewhere other than this particular subforum, and make an attempt at interaction with the denizens of pnwfly without dictating, either in posts or review format.

Mark
 
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No.

To clarify, that's not how it works. "I didn't do a good job, so I want you to do it" isn't really a strategy to success.

It might behoove you to post somewhere other than this particular subforum, and make an attempt at interaction with the denizens of pnwfly without dictating, either in posts or review format.

Mark
Mr. H,

Believe it or not, we’ve actually interacted and crossed paths before. I must say, you’re much nicer in real life than in this forum. As a 4th generation Alaskan, I really appreciate everything you’ve done for salmon and trout in SE AK. I’d be stoked if I had even half of your success. Thank you for helping protect the future so young local anglers like myself can enjoy Alaska's pristine waters.

However, there’s a big difference between us: I'm not a member of Echo's Pro Staff team.

I’ve worked in the trades and funded my collection of fly gear through my hard earned cash and bargain hunting. I’m not an ambassador for Echo or any other brands, and that’s why I express my honest opinions of the gear I buy. I bought this rod as a consumer, owned it for 5 years, and I don’t think it’s worth $500 in today’s market. A lot of people love their OHS rods, and I’m not here to change their minds. With your Echo Pro Staff affiliation and fly fishing pedigree, I can understand why you feel the need to tear down a little guy like me on this forum.

“Never meet you heroes” (on fly fishing forums at least)
 
I can understand why you feel the need to tear down a little guy like me on this forum.

“Never meet you heroes” (on fly fishing forums at least)
I went back and re-read my critique of your review and our subsequent exchange, and while there is a tad of snark, I'm really scratching my head as to where I was "tearing you down". You gave your strong opinion, and I gave a strong opinion in return.

Imagine, if you will, a fella walking into an informal gathering and without a word of introduction or any attempt to mingle, casts out an opinion that some may find unfavorable...what would be your reaction?

I again urge you to take part in the greater conversation offered by the board.
 
Not Echo pro staff, work in the trades and buy all my own gear. I liked the 8 wt OHS enough that I bought the 6 as well. I think they worth more than the $500 I paid for each one.
I guess I don’t care about swing weight because I have never noticed it. What I have noticed is how it casts overhand, or two hand. I opt for two hand 90% of the time. It bombs.
If I could only have one rod for Pike, Salmon, Steelhead, and Trout the 8 wt OHS is near the very top of my list.
 
Not Echo pro staff, work in the trades and buy all my own gear. I liked the 8 wt OHS enough that I bought the 6 as well. I think they worth more than the $500 I paid for each one.
I guess I don’t care about swing weight because I have never noticed it. What I have noticed is how it casts overhand, or two hand. I opt for two hand 90% of the time. It bombs.
If I could only have one rod for Pike, Salmon, Steelhead, and Trout the 8 wt OHS is near the very top of my list.
I respect your take on the OHS and I agree with the versatility.

What lines are you using with it?

I liked it a lot more for overhead casting than roll casting, even when I added a haul. Unfortunately, I don't have enough back casting room on the local creeks.
 
I went back and re-read my critique of your review and our subsequent exchange, and while there is a tad of snark, I'm really scratching my head as to where I was "tearing you down". You gave your strong opinion, and I gave a strong opinion in return.

Imagine, if you will, a fella walking into an informal gathering and without a word of introduction or any attempt to mingle, casts out an opinion that some may find unfavorable...what would be your reaction?

I again urge you to take part in the greater conversation offered by the board.
Mark,

I'm getting tired of focusing on this negativity between us, and I think we both have better things to be doing. If you want to complain about my favorite fly rod, the Winston Alpha+ 8wt, then please be my guest to do it on YouTube, Facebook, this forum, and from the Juneau Costco. At the most, I might give you some advice or ask a question. I really couldn't care less because it's not a big deal. I can't take these rods and reels with me when it all comes to an end, only the memories I make with them.

If you were to challenge me to write a positive review of the Alpha +, then I'd take the wager and add an element of friendly competition to better my writing skills. Again, I'd be happy if I had even half of your life's fly fishing success.

It worries me that my review and opinion of my 8wt OHS has brought you to this mental state, because you've always come off as a really nice guy. I apologize that we don't see eye to eye on this item, and that I've brought you to this place of negativity. For the rest of the week, I will pray for you to find some peace of mind on this subject. You've got the Tongass National Forest to help protect and more information to share with the world.

God bless you, Mark Hieronymus!
 
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