Cutty time

Smalma said:
Matt B
I understand the difficulty monitoring those kinds of populations. That does not mean that it could not be done. for some key populations, it is a matter of priority.
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I think that’s the same thing I said. Priorities.

Matt B said:
I think the fish managers are so focused on salmon, and so pressed for funding/staffing/time, that it isn't prioritized and so bull trout and cutthroat and rainbow monitoring falls by the wayside…I've been told it's difficult even for them to do bull trout redd surveys, and they're a listed species--part of it is timing and access to the spawning grounds in Fall, but a lot of it is capacity and priorities.
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Smalma said:
I suspect with that sort of management paradigm would quickly generate input for users on priority areas.
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Sorry but I don’t follow. What kind of input would the management approach generate, how and for whom? Thx
 
Matt B said:
Great info; thanks Curt. It would be amazing to have that kind of monitoring data but I think the fish managers are so focused on salmon, and so pressed for funding/staffing/time, that it isn't prioritized and so bull trout and cutthroat and rainbow monitoring falls by the wayside. I've been told it's difficult even for them to do bull trout redd surveys, and they're a listed species--part of it is timing and access to the spawning grounds in Fall, but a lot of it is capacity and priorities. It's awesome what Coastal Cutthroat Coalition has been able to get done and keep funding for. We probably need some similar grassroots effort to work with the fish managers and to fill that sort of information gap for resident and migratory trout and char. And I'm fully cognizant that that could start with the person typing this right now but sheesh, I've got forum posts to get to. :sneaky:
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I noticed quite a bit of BT redd survey markers of years past this summer and fall, mainly 2022. Do you know if this is being done by WDFW solely or in collaboration with volunteers from different groups like TU?
 
jeradjames said:
I noticed quite a bit of BT redd survey markers of years past this summer and fall, mainly 2022. Do you know if this is being done by WDFW solely or in collaboration with volunteers from different groups like TU?
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I was thinking of the upper Sky and actually don't know anything about survey efforts in other systems TBH. If it's the Skagit system it could potentially have something to do with the City of Seattle FERC relicensing for the hydro project.
 
At least here in North Puget Sound rivers the bull trout surveys are done by WDFW staff. The streams surveyed (index areas) are largely headwater areas with spawning happening in October/early November depending on water temperatures.
 
SO, I was all ready to hit my local S river on Nov 1. WDFW shut it down again indefinitely. Sigh

I guess I could try the other S river that is open
 
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