South Fork Flathead

July - August 2018

The South Fork Flathead River heads in the Bob Marshall Wilderness and flows from south to north, eventually ending up in Hungry Horse Reservoir before joining the Middle Fork near Columbia Falls, Montana. I’d long heard about “the Bob” and one day making a wilderness trek there. Then I learned about “packrafting” and the feasibility it lends to a trip of this sort. My usual fishing friends and victims either couldn’t or wouldn’t make the trip, but my wife, Mrs. Salmo, good sport that she is and always ready to try an adventure, said sure, she’d like to do this trip with me.

The trip involves either backpacking into the wilderness or riding a horse into it. There is no route to the upper South Forth that is less than 20 miles. Given that the trip would be 7 or 8 days, and with food at about 2#/person/day I figured out that our backpacks wouldn’t hold all the food and gear we’d need for the trip. Through a blind luck contact here on the forum I reached an outfitter who packs into the area I wanted to reach, so we could ride horses in with our packs and gear, then float, fish, and camp our way downriver to the designated take out upstream of Meadow Creek Gorge and hike out with our then emptier backpacks after having eaten almost all of the food we carried in. At least that was how the plan was evolving. And the outfitter provided a shuttle service, taking our car from the trailhead on the SW side of the wilderness area to the Meadow Creek trailhead on the north end.

If you’re just looking for the thumbnail sketch trip report, it goes like this: it was harder than I expected, and we expected to spend more time fishing.
We dropped off our gear at the outfitter corral at Owl Creek trailhead Sunday afternoon July 29, stayed that night at a nearby B&B, and returned to the trailhead Monday morning to head into “the Bob.” Being the tallest person in our group (we were paired up with another party of four) I was assigned to ride the mule named Belle. If mules are measured in “hands” like horses, then Belle was a couple dozen of them. Those long legs positioned the saddle stirrup nearly shoulder high on me, or so it seemed. It was a minor struggle to saddle up and climb aboard my mule named Belle. Mrs. Salmo was assigned to a smallish horse named Lady, and it happens that Belle just follows Lady wherever she goes. Since Belle gets a new rider every trip, she has no need nor use for instruction or input of any sort from the likes of me. It was pointless for me to tell her “giddyup” or anything else. Belle walks forward, turns left or right, and stops wherever and whenever Lady does. That’s how that relationship works, and it would have been absolutely pointless for me to try in any way to alter it.


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Mounted on Belle and Lady.


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The pack string took off a little ahead of us.

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Belle follows Lady; that's just how it is with them.


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Much of the forested area in the Bob has burned, but not all of it.


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But lots of it has burned.


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A whole lot of it has burned. We saw sights like this most of the week along the river.


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Here's a section along Gordon Creek, also burned.


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Think of it as the rebirth of a new forest and it doesn't seem quite so bad. Never saw so much fireweed sprouting up in my life.
About riding horses, I rode horses when I was a kid. Even rode bareback a lot, saddles being expensive and me being poor and all that. However, I can’t remember riding a horse in the last 50 years. Fortunately it’s a lot like riding a bicycle, you never really forget. Mrs. Salmo probably hasn’t ridden a horse for 20 years. Just for reference, we have experience, just not current.

Another thing about riding horses, most people ride for an hour or two at a time, not all day. I don’t think I ever rode for more than 2 ½ hours in any one day when I was a youngster. The route we took into the Bob was 26 miles and a 9 ½ hour ride. Even the outfitter and wranglers who do this regularly say it’s brutal. But it gets us where we are going, and in one day instead of two. Another thing they say about riding saddle stock, if your legs hurt, the stirrups are too short. If your butt hurts, the stirrups are too long. If both your legs and butt hurt, then the stirrups are adjusted just right. And Salmo says, if you don’t go on long horseback rides regularly, wear cycling shorts with a good gel chamois under your pants. It helps. A lot, I’d say. At five hours in, Mrs. Salmo and I were feeling fine, and I thought if it gets no worse than that, then we’ve got it made. Well guess what? Yep, it can only get worse, and worse it did get. My butt ached so back when we finally reached the South Fork, it was all I could do to dismount. We said goodbye to our trusty saddle steeds and retrieved our packed gear from one of the mules and went about making our first night’s camp.

Guess I should do this in segments.
 
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BDD

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BDD,

I don't have that many experiences with westslope cutts, so my opinion is limited. I think the size and abundance in the SFFH directly correlates with habitat productivity and capacity. It seems like there are more large fish in the wilderness compared to reports from others fishing downstream. I presume that is the result of the higher fishing pressure and catch limit which allows retention. In the wilderness, most anglers seemed to retain no fish, and when they do, it's for immediate camp fare. So I don't think angling has any measurable affect on size and abundance. What does affect size and distribution appears to be month of the year. When we were there, it seemed like more large trout were in the upper river. That makes sense because that's where there is a ton of spawning water in the mainstem and main tributaries. I think those larger fish - the spawners - will gradually move downstream toward fall so that they can overwinter in the many large and deep pools. Then migrate back upstream in the spring to spawn again. That's more hypothesis than fact because I haven't been there to sample the population throughout the season(s).

They will take nymphs (and streamers I expect), but it seems like they'd rather hit a dry on the surface than any other presentation. When we weren't getting any hits, I put a nymph and bobber on Mrs. Salmo's rod. She immediately had two rises to the indicator bobber and no takes on the nymph. I had similar results on the Elk in B.C. OK, that's more than I really know about westslope cutthroat trout.
Thank you. You are probably correct regarding the seasonal migration to and from headwaters for spawning and overwintering as I have read that elsewhere. There has been a couple times when, after a bit of slow fishing, I put on a nymph and indicator and the fish started hitting the bobber as well. I just shook my head and ask myself what the heck I was doing as I immediately re-rigged.
 

JohnB

Smolt
@Salmo_g

I realize that in doing the SFFH, there is much more besides the fishing to consider when planning that trip. Most folks should consider the total, overall experience: the scenery and solitude, the wildlife (though you mentioned there was not a lot), the adventure getting there (whether hiking or by horseback), the company and even perhaps the meals (though going as light as you did, there may not be a lot of fine dining opportunity on a trip like this) and certainly other considerations.

Let's put all that aside and discuss the cutthroat for a second. In your experience with westslopes that you have encountered elsewhere (which I don't know how much you have but I assume some) did you find that the SFFH were 1) larger, 2) more abundant, or 3) less wary to rising to a dry fly than other westslope fisheries that perhaps you have experienced? My curiosity stems from whether very remote populations of westslopes exhibit behavior, size, or abundance differences compared to populations that are more prone to easier access and pressure.
From my experience I'd say the fish were more abundant but not larger than other rivers I've experienced. They were quite willing to rise for drys but I started catching larger fish when I was targeting bull trout with large streamers. There is a still fair amount of pressure on the river despite being a tough place to get into. Between packraft groups and also folks that paid to have rafts packed in I bet there were 3-5 fishing groups that passed on a given day. Not exceptional but certainly traffic.
 
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BDD

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You are surrounded by plenty of places to packraft! They do not need to be used just for overnighters and can be used on any river that you have the skills to run, even if just for day trips. They are a total blast! I have run Class 3 in a bucket packraft without a spray skirt (that used to be owned by SalmoG and then was given to me by BDD), but it did require a lot of bailing. A packraft also makes a great boat for fishing without a shuttle as you can just walk back to your rig.

I recall that packraft worked pretty well for simply crossing the river to fish the other side based on the one time we tried it out. If I were to ever fish the Dean camped on a gravel bar, I'd want something like that to fish the other side though I'm guessing it would be a Freestone.
 

Freestone

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I recall that packraft worked pretty well for simply crossing the river to fish the other side based on the one time we tried it out. If I were to ever fish the Dean camped on a gravel bar, I'd want something like that to fish the other side though I'm guessing it would be a Freestone.

It sure did! I thought about adding that as it occurred to me while cooking dinner, but I forgot! As you know, it’s maiden voyage was getting to fish that run from the other side, something I’d wanted do do for years! I can’t thank you enough for my retirement/birthday present!
 

mcswny

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Sue, I right-clicked on the image name and selected open image in new tab and it worked. Very tedious. And what is more interesting, is the tab avatar is that of another website we were all on....lol.

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This worked for me.

This problem is theyre being linked out to WFF who is hosting them.
Is there any issue with that causing any problems for our new site ownership ie, billy, josh and evan. I dont want them to get in "trouble" for linking out to another overlords hosted images.
 

Bruce Baker

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Thanks Bruce. I did that & found that right click > reload image - loaded the image on page, so not quite as tedious. Thanks!
I did reload image first, but nothing happened. So after seeing your message, I went back to first post and the images were there. Went to second post and reloaded each image and then hit the refresh button and the images were there.

I like the reload image option way better :)
 

Salmo_g

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OK folks, I tried a fix. I deleted the photos that were copied along with the text I posted at WFF. Then I copied those same photos from my desk top home computer hard drive storage. Let me know if they are not showing now. Thanks, and sorry for the screw up. So much for having Salmo do any technical testing.
 

smc

Guppy Chow
OK folks, I tried a fix. I deleted the photos that were copied along with the text I posted at WFF. Then I copied those same photos from my desk top home computer hard drive storage. Let me know if they are not showing now. Thanks, and sorry for the screw up. So much for having Salmo do any technical testing.
wonderful, thank you Salmo!
 

mcswny

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Mrs. Salmo got in on the action too.

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Note the bear whistle hanging from her neck, along with the bear spray on her belt. Safety first.
Speaking of safety, all our food, etc. went into this dry bag every night.

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That's a 50' hank of thin rope and a small nylon bag I put a rock in to throw it over a tree limb. All this stuff must work because we never saw any bears all week. Nor much wildlife at all, for that matter.

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A water filter keeps the giardia away. I had it once years ago and never want to catch it again.

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As long as we're talking camp stuff, the three bottles on the ground are for filtered water. The bottle on the log is not for potable water. I take it in the tent with me at night. It really doesn't belong in this picture.

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Being sanitary is easy when you have the right tools. I'm quite proud of my 0.6 oz. titanium cat hole digging trowel. It works very well; cuts through turf and small roots like nobody's business.

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Since we did plan to fish a bit, I thought I'd show a fairly compact kit - 3 rods, 1 back up, 2 reels, and about 4 fly boxes.
Hey salmo, what brand is that cat hole trowel?
 

Greg Armstrong

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Fantastic. I recollect a bit of it from the other place, but I’m glad you reposted it here.Thanks for sharing!
 

Josh

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Okay, I'm fixing the images. But it's going to take a bit of time. The ones from the first post SHOULD be showing for everyone now. Let me know if not. You may need to refresh the page in your browser.

I'll work on the rest as I have time.
 
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