Yeah, I've tried them before (well, the foot tractor ones). The only way they'd have worked is if I used them barefoot--for a short period of time.Some companies make the 14s closer to a 14.5 or even 15. Will be curious of the size @Stonedfish compared to the Orvis Ultralight 14s. Wouldn’t mind an update once you get them, never have put my foot in a Patagonia wading boot.