Rob Allen
Life of the Party
Good.
CA Seals and Sealions eating all of WA Springers?
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Rob Allen
Life of the Party
That's an emotional response and therefo level-headed. headed..
Environmentalism and species preservation hell yeah
Animal rights hell naw.
I don't think you give them enough credit. They notice much. They notice the truck the rubber bullet guy drives and move to the other side of the channel. They are really quite perceptive creatures. I would think Ted Nugent hosted hunts aboard an orca whale wrapped in Ted White a blue flag motif power boat blasting cat scratch fever would be a deterrent with hanging out in certain areas but like I say they aren't stupid. They would likely avoid the threat and simply work around it.
That said populations have exploded in the last decade plus (400%+ worldwide according to an old article I read) to the point where the boom bust predator prey relationship is taking effect. Sardine harvest off California coupled with high populations is leading to pups not surviving or thriving as mothers aren't able to feed effectively to maintain nutrition. Yet they keep plugging along.
This is why vital organizations like the Sea Lion Defence Brigade on Facebook are so awesome. They are really filtering the science and following their hearts. Their amazing work and insights are really astounding. They've even stepped into the political arena and weighed in on a myriad of issues including healthcare. I look no further than this group when making complex wildlife decisions as pertaining to possible policy.
^^^^ I know it's early, but my vote for post of the year ^^^^^
JayB
Steelhead
I recall hearing someone who sounded like they knew what they were talking about declare that sea-lions are now more abundant than they were when Lewis and Clark landed, because of the extent of native hunting. Could be complete BS, but sounded vaguely plausible. Would be interested to hear from anyone who has seen credible-seeming population estimates going back that far.
"California Sea" lions in the Columbia River make as much sense as Canadian Gray Wolves in the United States. Kill them all!
California Sea Lions have always been present in the Columbia River. Also, Gray Wolves have always lived in the United States.
Rob Allen
Life of the Party
yes they have both need to have their populations regulated so that more important species , Yes i said it, meant it and would argue it as a matter of fact, can survive.. condemn California sea lions in the Columbia to save salmon? Yell yes it's common sense, is it a solution long term? nope everything we do as humans is only buying time for salmon until ocean conditions improve.. if ocean conditions never improve it does not matter what we do for salmon all our efforts are a complete waste of time.
we need to figure out how to get our salmon back from the ocean, until then kill the sea lions.
As previously stated, the states and tribes are killing hundreds of sea lions. I even shared a document that goes into great detail about the problem and the actions being taken. You don't need to continue making the same statement - your opinion has been heard.
Rob Allen
Life of the Party
Fair enough, but it wasn't an opinion.
Definition of OPINION
a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter; approval, esteem; belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge… See the full definition
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Rob Allen
Life of the Party
Hmmm. Good thing that's not what I did.Definition of OPINION
a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter; approval, esteem; belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge… See the full definition
Flymph
Steelhead
How many salmon and steelhead did they used to have in Idaho?
Paige
Wishing I was fishing the Sauk
Rob Allen
Life of the Party
An opinion that is true is not an opinion, it's a fact.
An opinion that is wrong is not an opinion it's a fallacy.
A person is not entitled to an opinion that is wrong( in terms of public policy)
food is more valuable than warm fuzzy feelings.
Therefore salmon are more important that sea lions.
Therefore my statement is not an opinion.
I imagine everyone is sick of me about now so refer to the above for any further comments. I will do absolutely everything in my power ( which isn't much) to make this my last post on the issue..
'Always certain often wrong' ...this should be your sig line Rob.
JFC
Kill 'em all and let the Flying Spaghetti Monster sort 'em out.
The number one cause of dwindling salmon populations worldwide is human beings. Solve the human problem and save the salmon.
Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
JFC
Kill 'em all and let the Flying Spaghetti Monster sort 'em out.
The number one cause of dwindling salmon populations worldwide is human beings. Solve the human problem and save the salmon.
Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
RCF
Legend
A number of people eat sea lions. It is quite tasty and nutritious too from what I have been told. Therefore, they are food.
Time for Washington state to establish a hunting season on sea lions just like there is for deer and bear season?
