Rob Allen
Life of the Party
I can't say anymore because it gets political.
Fly Tiers in WA & OR, Be Advised
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I can't say anymore because it gets political.
TicTokCroc
Sunkist and Sudafed
What about beaver felt hats? 
Leather is exempt? Does it depend what kind of leather? Asking for a friend...
Leather is exempt? Does it depend what kind of leather? Asking for a friend...
Rob Allen
Life of the Party
You laugh but there absolutely is an element that would do that if they could.
I'm more concerned with availability for purchase and how it impacts the economics for an already tough fly shop industry. I don't have any belief that my stuff will be confiscated or the like. I just worry that a fox tail might be economically crazy price or not available.
yea, whole lotta of 'elements' in this country, and more than one kind of woke
my personal goal in 2023 is not to rent any of them head space, keep it clear only for good things
cheers
And the partridge skin to go with it!You can have my hares mask when you can pry it from my cold dead hands...
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You should be careful, they may be undercover squirrels engaged in a sting operation...
There's an element in the squirrel community that would do that if they could...and they don't need helicopters.
Flying squirrels...and moose... they are to be watched carefully.
There's an element in the squirrel community that would do that if they could...and they don't need helicopters.
Flying squirrels...and moose... they are to be watched carefully.
I'm beginning to believe that the people who draft these ambiguous proposals don't have a fucking clue what they're trying to accomplish. Government's role is to employ people and spend money. It doesn't have to accomplish anything tangible because the process is the product. Only have to give the illusion that it's doing the best for whoever is bitching the most at any given moment.
Rob Allen
Life of the Party
I hope your right. But I don't think so. I believe they know exactly what they are doing. They know it hurts people and they do not care..Their agenda is the only thing that matters and if people get hurt along the way so what..
That's how I used to be about Hatcheries and I was wrong.
Just like the Seattle area in Washington, the entire Portland area is a dumpster fire and this is what the legislature chooses to spend time on.
They do have a clue. They know what they are doing. They want no animal products processed, bought, or sold and therefore consumed, period. Same as the anti-meat bill that is kicking around (the one where you can only eat meat if the animal died of natural causes). They are sold to appeal to a broad audience (most people don't approve of fur farms), but the bill is written to be extremely broad. They could have just written a bill to ban fur farms in oregon. Both of those bills would de facto legislate a vegan lifestyle. That's the intent, anyway. Very few people wear fur anymore, so why is this bill needed now? I sure wish the time, money, and effort that go into bills like this would go toward something like, oh, I don't know, homelessness or drug addiction. I can't even remember the last time I saw someone wearing a fur coat.
As an aside, I believe some kind of anti-fur bill passed in California and went into effect this year. Has that affected fly shops? Will it? I'm not sure how it was written.
I think this guy must have had some showshoe rabbit feet stashed in his pocket.
Who is "they"? It's not the majority. Most people won't bat an eye to something like this. And as you point out nothing gets done when it comes to real issues. But stuff like these warm fuzzy things that give the illusion government is working is what we get. I was in that merry-go-round for over 35 years. No one ever wanted to make a decision on anything important. Kick the can down the road for someone else to tackle. You stay in long enough and you witness the same tired ideas that miserably failed the last time they were tried a decade or more ago. Heaven help anyone who wants to make a decision because if wrong your upward climb to the top will be derailed because you've got a wreckless attitude.
No just sit there. Come up with things that sound good but do nothing but affect those your legislation didn't consider because you and those who draft this stuff didn't know enough about the world except that blood sports are a bad thing practiced by crazed lunatics. Let's protect the defenseless animals. We've done real well there so far haven't we. Here's our tax dollars at work. This is as good as it gets.
No just sit there. Come up with things that sound good but do nothing but affect those your legislation didn't consider because you and those who draft this stuff didn't know enough about the world except that blood sports are a bad thing practiced by crazed lunatics. Let's protect the defenseless animals. We've done real well there so far haven't we. Here's our tax dollars at work. This is as good as it gets.
Apparently they weren’t lucky.
TicTokCroc
Sunkist and Sudafed
"You'll never find the gerbil"
