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100% of the reason I have been an NRA member for more than 40 years. There are very few public land access advocates, the NRA is one of them.Sadly, most people pay no attention to public lands privatization and give aways at all.
Sure. The following from Merriam-webster is a positive ”or not”. At least in my view:In the context of the article I read the term "wonky" as an attempted jab at the scientific community which, to me, was more of an indicator of the authors obtuseness about the topics - which would be right at home in any scientific conference I've attended in the last 20+ years - than anything else. In any event, if they had just stayed objective I would have kept reading.
To check myself I looked up the definition of "wonky" and didn't find anything that I found positive or even neutral. Yes, I'm a nerd. I've certainly always understood it to carry a negative connotation. Can you provide an example of "or not"?
@FontinalisFin - how do YOU differentiate between wildlife and game? What species fall under what categories, and why? Can some species be both, and if so, when do they stop being one and become the other?
and the difference is…?@Roper,
Yeah, but these ain't tree huggers ... They're bambiists
IMO: Not all wildlife is game, but all game is wildlife. Game has a regulated and defined hunting season, and is also wildlife. For example, deer. They (deer) are both game and wildlife. Bald eagles though, just wildlife, not game in Washington since there is no defined hunting season.In the context of the article I read the term "wonky" as an attempted jab at the scientific community which, to me, was more of an indicator of the authors obtuseness about the topics - which would be right at home in any scientific conference I've attended in the last 20+ years - than anything else. In any event, if they had just stayed objective I would have kept reading.
To check myself I looked up the definition of "wonky" and didn't find anything that I found positive or even neutral. Yes, I'm a nerd. I've certainly always understood it to carry a negative connotation. Can you provide an example of "or not"?
@FontinalisFin - how do YOU differentiate between wildlife and game? What species fall under what categories, and why? Can some species be both, and if so, when do they stop being one and become the other?
I feel bad about my "if I won the powerball" plans now. Your plan was way less self centered (and way more fucking awesome) and doesn't involve any mega yachts, private islands or water front mega mansions in Seychelles or fleets of super cars.....in my defense though, I did have at one point the thought to take the top 100 forum content providers to my mega mansion in Seychelles after winning two bill. That'll all have to wait though. Boo.Alas, if I won the powerball I was going to buy up all the land I could in a sportsman's trust and open to the public. I didn't win... sorry.
To me, "preoccupied" generally has a more negative or maybe neutral-at-best meaning. The kicker for me is the "but" style sentence, which implies the wonky part of the sentence is a negative because it's followed by "but this part is positive".Sure. The following from Merriam-webster is a positive ”or not”. At least in my view:
a : preoccupied with arcane details or procedures in a specialized field
She can get wonky about the economy when she wants to, but what sets her apart is her ability to tell a coherent, populist story about it in a way that other members of her party are either unwilling or unable to do.
"So and so is a political wonk" doesn't carry any negative connotation to me. Sort of like nerd, which I totally am.In the context of the article I read the term "wonky" as an attempted jab at the scientific community which, to me, was more of an indicator of the authors obtuseness about the topics - which would be right at home in any scientific conference I've attended in the last 20+ years - than anything else. In any event, if they had just stayed objective I would have kept reading.
To check myself I looked up the definition of "wonky" and didn't find anything that I found positive or even neutral. Yes, I'm a nerd. I've certainly always understood it to carry a negative connotation. Can you provide an example of "or not"?
@FontinalisFin - how do YOU differentiate between wildlife and game? What species fall under what categories, and why? Can some species be both, and if so, when do they stop being one and become the other?
This tree hugger supports hunting rights and public land access. Below cost timber sales and logging old growth forests, not so much.and the difference is…?
They will never co- manage because the objective is to eliminate sport. Like long rod said, game is wildlife but not all wildlife is game. They won't be satisfied till all game is wildlife and there's no hunting or fishing or harassing. Have to grandfather in game species so they can always be hunted and fished and the state's new wildlife 'management' plans won't affect that. Highly doubtful.To me, "preoccupied" generally has a more negative or maybe neutral-at-best meaning. The kicker for me is the "but" style sentence, which implies the wonky part of the sentence is a negative because it's followed by "but this part is positive".
@Long_Rod_Silvers your take on wildlife vs. game looks pretty good to me, especially because you've noticed that it's not black and white. I'm just confused how @FontinalisFin would propose managing wildlife and game separately when the critters in question could be the exact same thing but maybe just over an arbitrary line on a map or calendar date that has nothing to do with their actual ecology.
My experience on the data collection side has shown me that wildlife and game management is amazingly complex... And then you have to add in all the human factors and you get messes like this. I wish I was more optimistic.
I don't believe they are bambiists. I think they could truely care less about our ungulates. When faced with the debate on the spring bear hunt Lorna Smith said something to the effect of basically disagreeing with the estimate of the elk carrying capacity of the Blue Mountains by the regional biologists.@Roper,
Yeah, but these ain't tree huggers ... They're bambiists
I don't believe they are bambiists. I think they could truely care less about our ungulates. When faced with the debate on the spring bear hunt Lorna Smith said something to the effect of basically disagreeing with the estimate of the elk carrying capacity of the Blue Mountains by the regional biologists.
The Blue Mountain elk herd is at a 25 year low. Calf studies show almost total year 1 fatalities by predators and these fruitcakes without I'm sure ever stepping foot in the area just brush it off and say, "oh well." It shouldn't matter if you are a hunter or not, some of these people are not capable of being in the position they are in and should have been fired yestelovers.
I've spent far more time looking up definitions of "wonky" and now "political wonk" than I expected! I'm also a nerd, and I think words matter."So and so is a political wonk" doesn't carry any negative connotation to me. Sort of like nerd, which I totally am.
The WDFW commission went against the WDFW biologists 100% by vote. That's exactly what happened. Hence why I make statements they are a rogue radical group. They shouldn't exist. Why pay for a department that gets overruled by a citizen commission group?So you are saying that wildlife commission members are ignoring the science prepared by actual biologists?
They aren’t even a sampling of the average citizen, and that’s part of this, they are a mobilized special interest group, that has strong armed their way into a position of power that isn’t even real.The WDFW commission went against the WDFW biologists 100% by vote. That's exactly what happened. Hence why I make statements they are a rogue radical group. They shouldn't exist. Why pay for a department that gets overruled by a citizen commission group?
The WDFW commission went against the WDFW biologists 100% by vote. That's exactly what happened. Hence why I make statements they are a rogue radical group. They shouldn't exist. Why pay for a department that gets overruled by a citizen commission group?
They mock and despise the people and the lifestyle of the 509.They aren’t even a sampling of the average citizen, and that’s part of this, they are a mobilized special interest group, that has strong armed their way into a position of power that isn’t even real.
That is certainly how they act.They mock and despise the people and the lifestyle of the 509.