Shops newsletters, reports and... hotspotting?
- Thread starter mcswny
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Posting it now in trip reports on here! but per usual I dont think anyone will know where we are!Hey at least one shop is here! Josh, any chance you’re going to share the cutt throat creek from the video you shared recently.
Edit: please don’t
I like it! Also, not trying to drag you into another shops business. I'm sure owning a shop is hard enough without mud slinging.
DerekWhipple
Steelhead
Well, new newsletter is out!
Spill the beansSure is
They were pretty clear about how they felt about my email.
For starters, the subject line is:
“This Newsletter is Here to Help, Plain & Simple”
I totally understand I could be overthinking ^. I've been known to do that
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Never mind. The whole thing hadn’t loaded for me. Names were named.
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Very Fishy Creek?Fish Creek?
I mean, there were a couple specifically still noted. Maybe spreading the wealth? Week by week? .
Honestly, sure it's pretty irritating when specific tiny streams are named...on the other hand, I'd be shocked if it really makes an appreciable difference in pressure because most people are too lazy to still put in the work required to get the top end fish in any specific fishery.
. Honestly, sure it's pretty irritating when specific tiny streams are named...on the other hand, I'd be shocked if it really makes an appreciable difference in pressure because most people are too lazy to still put in the work required to get the top end fish in any specific fishery.
I agree and I agree.I mean, there were a couple specifically still noted. Maybe spreading the wealth? Week by week?
Honestly, sure it's pretty irritating when specific tiny streams are named...on the other hand, I'd be shocked if it really makes an appreciable difference in pressure because most people are too lazy to still put in the work required to get the top end fish in any specific fishery.
The report about fishing with his mom? That was cool. But you didn’t need to name the river for a story about fishing with your mom.
It didn't add anything to the article at all
DerekWhipple
Steelhead
This is my stance too, and what makes me less steamed than others about this. It's a decent drive and then sometimes hike to get to a lot of these smaller tributaries for a payoff that many fly-fishers don't think is worth it. I don't fish up there like I used to, so maybe there are a ton more fly-fishers, but that's not who I'm worried about...
...What makes me steamed is the googans up there who use bait and are keeping trout. I'm also sure some people up there are fishing for and keeping salmon, steelhead, and the forbidden char. If you look at catch cards, there are inexplicably a few salmon and steelhead catches registered in waters that have long been closed.
Dustin Chromers
Legend
For starters, the subject line is:
“This Newsletter is Here to Help, Plain & Simple”
I totally understand I could be overthinking ^. I've been known to do that
Ah yes, the on helping other folks and you're a greedy gatekeeper stance. Most of the time it's younger or new to fishing people with that stance on fishing. They are fully up on the newspeak and DEI (didn't earn it). What's the shop. I'll call them. I'm sure they will see reason when I pose my position diplomatically.
It's probably time to wrap this one up after seven pages, as everyone's positions seem pretty well staked out at this point, including the shop in question. There are a few closing points I'd like to make though. First, I'm super disappointed this shop decided not to respond directly to my (or @mcswny 's) email to engage in a productive dialogue. Maybe we could have explained a little better why we reached out in the first place, and the love we have for fly fishing and our local little blue lines. However, I think this refusal to engage in a direct conversation kinda of tells you all you need to know about the owner. Second, for all the "we're here to help" and "fly fishing is too secretive" rhetoric in the newsletter, you can't help but notice that the "warm water leader" shop doesn't name or point anyone in the direction of any warm water spots (that I can recall). Could this be that the shop and their guides have a significant financial interest in not disclosing these waters to thousands of people every week? I guess we'll never know...
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Chris Bellows
Steelhead
The younger generation learned their selfishness from the older generations. The generations that left no legacy, destroyed special places and fisheries, and kicked every can down the road when it came to fixing things. The idea that the older generation, who remain in power to this day, are less selfish than the 30yo job applicant is insane.
Thank goodness. Now please go to town on Albertsons
Dustin Chromers
Legend
Younger generation will sell out a fishery or surf spot for internet street cred. That's a fact. It's about ego not being selfless or selfish. It's a thing on its own. This is a generation that shares way too much. From what they are eating, thinking, doing, voting, sleeping with, fishing where, it's all out there for you to like or you are a (fill in the blank with whatever hater slander that is hot right now). You aren't allowed to critique or question. They have no internal monologue. It's fine being the hero of your own story but do you have to publish every chapter? That's the issue. Nobody is anymore selfish than anybody else. It's just for some uncrowded water is less important than an Instagram boner from followers. A generation of followers following.
Yes, there are exceptions. But we're not talking about exceptions. We are generalising. I mean the Lunker alerts guy was old enough to know better, he just didn't care and hid behind his helpful stance. By the way I still got those second hand Lunker alerts. They are half off this month if you like and subscribe to my second hand Ponzi scheme Lunker alerts Facebook page and YouTube channel.
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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The generalizations just don’t hold. There’s at least one member here who sells his own private fishing report lunker alerts (marketed via social media), and he isn’t a member of any generation denoted by a letter nor the ones that came after those.
Yeah I'm not sure we can generalize that much. Facebook is heavily, possibly MOSTLY used by the older generations now. I am not on there, but across the internet, I see hotspotting, oversharing, and all those sorts of things done by all age brackets, and I dare say especially the older gens.
That said, I'm not on TikTok either, and that's where the younger gens tend to gravitate toward nowadays. I'm not even entirely sure how it works, but don't care to know. Like @Dustin Chromers says, there's no need or benefit to publishing every aspect of one's life. Hell, I co-own a fishing forum and post maybe 25% at most of my fishing exploits on here. I just can't relate to needing to share the mundane events of my day-to-day existence.
That said, I'm not on TikTok either, and that's where the younger gens tend to gravitate toward nowadays. I'm not even entirely sure how it works, but don't care to know. Like @Dustin Chromers says, there's no need or benefit to publishing every aspect of one's life. Hell, I co-own a fishing forum and post maybe 25% at most of my fishing exploits on here. I just can't relate to needing to share the mundane events of my day-to-day existence.