wolves...

Iif you or a loved one has been injured by a wolf, you may be entitled to compensation.
 
Even an otter...

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Dustin Chromers said:
T rex populations will be managed based on county populations. The trick is keeping the county rex in its respective county. Obviously some more populous counties with less survival oriented humans will attract more attention. Yet we feel once the kill rate weeds out the slow, stupid, and inattentive the rex population will naturally balance and human attention to survival will regain the path of survival of the fittest. I mean is this not what we are talking about. The over grazing problem is a human problem as well. Just think of the new purpose that the homeless drug addicted population will have when actively hunted by an apex predator. They will no longer occupy open park spaces and shit it up as the Rex hunts there where it's size is an advantage. And drugs? There is no drug like life and death being so intimately perceived. A little bit of near death makes everyone thankful for life and probably more willing to put the glass pipe down. Parks will recover. Sidewalks will be clean. Crime will go down. Lenient judges will be replaced by the ultimate judge, the county Rex. He cares not of your record, your sobriety, your family name. He only cares for the calories you might provide. Judge, jury, and executioner in the most unbiased primal sense. I think it's beautiful. Just like wolves doing what they do. I'm starting a rex advocacy group.
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An excellent plan!

However, you may face resistance convincing the local mayors or city councils that the T-rex(es) will not be a threat to their voting or lobbying base. In the more populous cities, you should tell them that the T-rex(es) will have their hands handcuffed behind their backs. That may sway them.

As you approach the more rural governments, especially those more used to wildlife encounters, you may run into some resistance. In this case, tell them that in addition to being handcuffed, any T-rex(es) introduced will be vegan.

Flawless, if you ask me.
 
Pink Nighty said:
That's been one of my frustrations with WWF and the more zealous of wolf advocates. They've chosen the route of litigation and bureaucracy and put ranchers in a difficult position. Gotta have flaggers, ranch riders, audio deterrents and more in place, and then you get to kill the wolf. It would be a hell of a lot cheaper, and leave the ranchers indifferent to the wolves, if the people who wanted the wolves there would just compensate them for what the wolves killed.

It boils down to "wolves for thee and not for me" coming from dense population centers where wolves will never exist. They want money spent relocating wolves to someplace else, money spent protecting them, money spent monitoring them. If they were willing to compensate for the damage wolves do, they may find the wolves need much less protection from people.

I spend a lot of time in Stevens county. People there don't just hate wolves. Most ive talked to think they're awesome, but are also losing their pets and are afraid to let their kids out at times. They're dealing with the actual repercussions of wolves on the landscape, but you won't see WWF out there building wolf proof fencing or supplying guardian dogs to the people there.

You will see them bringing the full force of the law down on someone who takes out a wolf that hangs out where their kids play.

Zealots are a silly breed.
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Let's just be real. Wolves are being used as a pawn in a social cultural war. If they piss ranchers and rural people off then the self righteous urbanites are for them. Whatever it takes to hurt the percieved other side. Wolves are a cultural touchstone to people that will likely never see one or be in a place with a chance to see one. This is the same "owning the libs" garbage the right pulls in reverse. I think we are all adults here and can see that while it's not the entirety of things going on here but at a minimum a nice bonus for owning the other side. Personally I think people that live in a place should have the greatest say over what goes on there as far as intervention. Wolves would be quietly repatriating lots of places as they already are without introductions etc. But the fanfare and glee of owning political rivals is so tasty they gotta litigate and push it. People love inflicting pain on their percieved rivals. It's stupid and juvenile. But hey that's the schoolyard mentality that dominates these days in this state.
 
T Rex would be awesome, but their too big n dumb, the Velociraptor would be a much better choice!
 
Tamp down the aggro, MAPA...

MAKE AMERICA PEACEFUL AGAIN !!!!

ToyPoodles, lots of Toy Poodles...released everywhere, and Golden Retrievers...and balls, tennis balls and stuffed animals with squeakers.

Who would oppose that ?

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Mossback said:
Tamp down the aggro, MAPA...

MAKE AMERICA PEACEFUL AGAIN !!!!

ToyPoodles, lots of Toy Poodles...released everywhere, and Golden Retrievers...and balls, tennis balls and stuffed animals with squeakers.

Who would oppose that ?

😁
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Me, down with Poodles, now throw in some Labs (y)
 
Labs for sure...gonna need some more tennis balls I guess...
 
Toy Poodles rock...
Smarter than many humans.

Plus they're cute, playful and loyal

Why do you hate America ?
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skyriver said:
Gotta watch out for those beavers too
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Whoa ! Was the beaver actually rabid or just in a very bad mood . I used to run into beaver while fishing the coastal rivers in Oregon. Some would freak out and slap their tail but none attacked with a vengeance.

Unless the critter was really rabid, the athletic dept at OSU needs to look into getting that beav as their mascot .... :oops:
 
I think we've all had a run in with a rabid beaver at one time or another...
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I was fishing alone one evening on a small stream in northern California with 10 foot "walls" bordering as the stream had cut into the meadow.

And around the corner I ran into a beaver. He was pissed. I actually had my 35 mm camera with me and have a couple of photos of a pissed off beaver.

After I took the "nature" photo, I realized I had a real problem on my hands. It took him about 10 minutes before he backed off. The fly rod was my only defense and thankfully I finally got the opportunity to slowly back out of there.

As for rabid beavers, just be very careful around closing time and you can easily avoid them.
 
Dustin Chromers said:
Let's just be real. Wolves are being used as a pawn in a social cultural war. If they piss ranchers and rural people off then the self righteous urbanites are for them. Whatever it takes to hurt the percieved other side. Wolves are a cultural touchstone to people that will likely never see one or be in a place with a chance to see one. This is the same "owning the libs" garbage the right pulls in reverse. I think we are all adults here and can see that while it's not the entirety of things going on here but at a minimum a nice bonus for owning the other side. Personally I think people that live in a place should have the greatest say over what goes on there as far as intervention. Wolves would be quietly repatriating lots of places as they already are without introductions etc. But the fanfare and glee of owning political rivals is so tasty they gotta litigate and push it. People love inflicting pain on their percieved rivals. It's stupid and juvenile. But hey that's the schoolyard mentality that dominates these days in this state.
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I think i can get on board with that. There's a moral superiority thread to both of them. Or maybe a practical ignorance to it, where they don't recognize the struggle of the other as valid. Either way, it results in a desire to punish the other for the way they view things.

Wolves belong on the landscape! Wolves cause problems for humans! Both of these statements are true! We should find a solution other than places being exclusively human or wolf occupied.
 
Pink Nighty said:
I think i can get on board with that. There's a moral superiority thread to both of them. Or maybe a practical ignorance to it, where they don't recognize the struggle of the other as valid. Either way, it results in a desire to punish the other for the way they view things.

Wolves belong on the landscape! Wolves cause problems for humans! Both of these statements are true! We should find a solution other than places being exclusively human or wolf occupied.
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Now bring it home to something you are a bit more passionate about and feel like you have the best information. Let's say hatchery versus wild. This is how we end up with money being spent in court that could go to better and an undesirable end result.
 
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