Rob Allen
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And it will never change.
NFR Ukraine...Little Did I Know
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And it will never change.
Doesn’t this frighten you? Putain using this as propaganda for WWIII against the west? Germans economy was shattered and that was grounds for a costly adventure. Note: I don’t disagree with economic strikes at all, and quite frankly, I’ve never been a fan of the Rodina, but remember the potential unintended consequences.
Rob Allen
Life of the Party
The risk is greater if we let Russia have Ukraine.
wanderingrichard
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Newsweek: Zelensky Receives Standing Ovation From EU Parliament in Emotional Scenes.
www.newsweek.com
From this mornings newsfeed
Zelensky Receives Standing Ovation From EU Parliament in Emotional Scenes
"We are fighting for our freedom, for our rights and for our survival," said Volodymyr Zelensky. "But we are also fighting also to be equal members of Europe."
www.newsweek.com
From this mornings newsfeed
wanderingrichard
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Excuse me, but having a Go Pro strapped to you so some armchair quaterbacks can judge you online later while you're engaged in keeping everything you hold right and dear just isn't just inane, its also extremely vain and purposless
anyone really think if Putin is just handed Ukraine he would stop there and not keep rolling over the borders into countries formerly part of the Soviet Union? This fight is important on many levels, not the least that China is looking at the world response and realizing it's ongoing threat to take over Democratic Taiwan would likely meet the same response.
Whereas Russia will initially take over the big cities, the ratrio of Russian soldiers per civilians is 1 to 500. Once the resistance is properly armed with hardware from the west, the body bag count returning to Russia will be continual.
6,000 protestors arrested in Russia, and this is just the beginning.
Whereas Russia will initially take over the big cities, the ratrio of Russian soldiers per civilians is 1 to 500. Once the resistance is properly armed with hardware from the west, the body bag count returning to Russia will be continual.
6,000 protestors arrested in Russia, and this is just the beginning.
Rob Allen
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Poland is in the process of giving Ukrainian fighter pilots more mig -29s. In his mind that justifies attacking Poland.
Those 6000 protestors even in the face of AK 47s could easily have overwhelmed the police who arrested them and who knows how much more.
Wow. You first?
It’s 6000 total over a number of protests and locations, not all at once. Sheesh.
Old406Kid
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I thank them for having the balls to even protest as that action in itself could be a threat to their livelihood.
Rob Allen
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If I was Russian... I would.. if not me then who?
6000 arrested.. how many more not arrested?
Just curious who you think should do the talking? The grocers union?
Easy to type.
I believe that you believe this. I am curious if you have traveled outside of North America. Have you experienced how people live in a “security state” or under authoritarian rule?
jaredoconnor
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If you were Russian, you would most likely be the same. It is arrogant to think otherwise.
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Even that pales compared to Stalin's 20 million, of his own people!
If you think about it there were more during our lives in the 20th century
@iveofione thank you for helping me understand your comment.
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Flymph
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@bennysbuddy Seriously, it's great to see your posts again. You are right in accusing some for sneaking in a political dig. "Self Included". Know that attacking strong personal beliefs and/or those who stand for those beliefs elicits a compelling urge to defend.
The other thing about this, Rob, is that it’s a slippery slope to make Russian citizens complicit just for being Russian. I think more empathy and restraint are needed. While I understand the urge to DO SOMETHING and STOP THIS SHIT NOW, it paves the way for violence against Russian citizens which would be wrong. Although, that somewhat aligns with some of your earlier posts in this thread that seemed to encourage rash actions that were frankly a little scary. I guess it’s all scary.
Say you’re sneaking up on a pod of Madison risers at first light. Do you toss out the caddis/stimmy you had on from last night or do you assess the situation, adjust, and react appropriately? (I know you’ll probably have a good response for this like “I would already know what to do and would have the #22 midge and #18 PMD already on”
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Lotta great armchair quarterbacking goin' on here (well at least by one or two individuals). If it were up to me I would do this, if I were there I would do that - lotta big talk - well you can be there - fly to Poland, help in a camp, cross the border, take up arms if you are so full of certainty of what you would do in such and such circumstance. Me, I have no idea how I would react in such situations. I would like to think I would do the right thing, be heroic or whatever, but until I'm in such a circumstance, if I am honest, I have no idea, so you won't see me spout off on what I would or would not do (if I do, someone please slap me hard).
The cavalier attitude about nukes is rather frightening, and at least to me, shows a lack of understanding of their destructive power and what a nuclear war would look like. Seems some are of the thinking, "why do we have them if we're not going to use them" - a complete lack of understanding of the MAD doctrine - both sides have them so we won't use them. I would love to hear the moral argument for killing many hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians that would result from just a couple of nukes being launched, and once 1 flies, it is far too likely that many will fly, not just a couple.
No cheers at all with the thought of nukes.
The cavalier attitude about nukes is rather frightening, and at least to me, shows a lack of understanding of their destructive power and what a nuclear war would look like. Seems some are of the thinking, "why do we have them if we're not going to use them" - a complete lack of understanding of the MAD doctrine - both sides have them so we won't use them. I would love to hear the moral argument for killing many hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians that would result from just a couple of nukes being launched, and once 1 flies, it is far too likely that many will fly, not just a couple.
No cheers at all with the thought of nukes.
kerrys
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