wanderingrichard
Life of the Party
Yeah I guess you're right. Just hit me, this also applies to weather forecasts on mass media.
NFR Superb Owl 2026: Seahawks vs Patriots (official thread)
- Thread starter Evan B
- Start date
Non-fishing related
Seahawks! Now onto the offseason, draft, and free agency! Ummmm….memo to John Schneider and to o line coach: pls consider right guard somewhere in your offseason efforts. Please.
charles sullivan
Life of the Party
It strikes me as really odd to complain that the MVP winner did not win by enough and blame it on an East Coast Bias in a sport where the games are generally played in the middle of the day and when they are shown late, it's the East Coast viewers who usually have to go to sleep. I'm betting he Rams had a few more nationally televised games and games of the week than the Pats as well. The fact is there are more teams on the "East Coast" or I-95 Corridor but no one was complaining of the "landlocked state bias" when Mahomes and Rodgers were winning the MVP every year.
Having watched Maye all year, he was deserving of 1st or 2nd in the MVP voting. He was not throwing to Devante Adams and Puka either. His TD throws weren't from the 1 and 2 yard line. Stafford won it and deserved it bit it's not like Maye's candidacy was without merit. He played all year with 2 rookies guarding his blindside.
The Seahawks defensive line was much much better than the Patriots offensive line. I have seen the Patriots lose a few superbowls over the years. With the exception of the Eagles game when Brady threw for 500 yards, the post 2000 losses have been becasue the opposition was able to pressure the QB with 4 and get home. This is how the Giants did it twice and how the Seahawks did it last night. Tom Brady is not less of a QB due to the Giant losses and Maye isn't due to the loss last night. If you can get home rushing 4, it's difficult to beat your defense. It's a simple game when you dominate up front.
charles sullivan
Life of the Party
I tend to be more of Parcells sort of guy and say that you are what your record says yo are or in this case, the gamne is as close as the score says.
wanderingrichard
Life of the Party
Charles, we're talking about the network commentators. If you pay attention to AL Michaels, Chris Collingsworth and several others, you can hear the bias and condescension overtly dripping from them. Almost to a T they're focused heavily on their personal favorites and/or an east coast team if they're traveling past the Monongahela.
Exactly. I'm meaning the talking heads and national media in general.
.
Didn't really notice a ton of bias during the game with the announcers. Surprised they didn't dwell too long on that missed personal foul that wasn't called on Sea. First the waaaaay late hit out of bounds then the punch thrown. It most likely wouldn't have made a lick of difference in the outcome, but hey, probably ok to miss it since it's your favorite team.
That was a well earned win by the SeaChickens. Their team speed just looks different...
That was a well earned win by the SeaChickens. Their team speed just looks different...
charles sullivan
Life of the Party
Just because you all hear something does not mean it's being said. The East Coast Bias is a large load of smelly crap. I don't hear it at all. Collinsworth lives in Kentucky and Tirico in Michingan. Neither of those places are on the east coast.
I think that some people hear East Coast Bias when people love on Mahomes or Allen or Burrow but none of them play anywhere cloes to the East coast or I-95 corridor. They just don't play on the west coast, so it must be that they play on the east coast. The east coat bias is the west coast version of "it's us vs. the world". It may have been a real thing when newspapers mattered and you far fewer games were on TV. The population centers of the east coast truly did not see the west coast teams play. That is not the case anymore. With modern media the east coast bias only exists but in the heads of the west coast fans.
I think that some people hear East Coast Bias when people love on Mahomes or Allen or Burrow but none of them play anywhere cloes to the East coast or I-95 corridor. They just don't play on the west coast, so it must be that they play on the east coast. The east coat bias is the west coast version of "it's us vs. the world". It may have been a real thing when newspapers mattered and you far fewer games were on TV. The population centers of the east coast truly did not see the west coast teams play. That is not the case anymore. With modern media the east coast bias only exists but in the heads of the west coast fans.
In the NFL, with its limited number of games and rigid start times, your point is valid. But how many east coast folks are staying up to watch Mariners/Kraken/Blazers/etc games that start at 10pm Eastern?
That said, these days, I think a lot of the "bias" people hear is more properly described as "national broadcast announcers are never really very knowledgeable". Even the good ones simply don't have enough time to dig deep into every team they cover because they never spend very much time with most of them. And there are more mediocre national announcers than good ones.
DryFly82
Life of the Party
East Coast Bias is a real thing. I lived on the East Coast for several years and people out there just do not care about West Coast sports. Fans and media both. When you have to be in work by 7am it's tough to stay up late for prime time games even when it's a team you care about. I don't think it's that big of an issue in the NFL because the NFL is king and people will watch because of fantasy, gambling, and the scarcity of games. In college sports it's a huge issue and a major contributor to the demise of the PAC-12. With 80% of the population in the Eastern and Central time zones not invested in West Coast college football we could not compete with the SEC and the BIG TEN in revenue and recruiting...ESPN never gave West Coast teams the same respect because it wasn't a money maker for them.
I didn't hear any bias, I heard Collinsworth, who so many seem to hate for some unknown reason, that many were probably unaware of just how good Seattle's defense was, but that he had seen them several times through the season, and they were for real (paraphrasing). Also words to the effect that New England had no answers for the Seattle defense, and on and on - not sure how that equates to bias.
Oh, and have I mentioned I hate Eastern time
Oh, and have I mentioned I hate Eastern time
Spent much of a decade with a biz trip to the east coast about every other month, and the disdain the east coasters had in general for the west coast was a real thing, considered themselves 'the right coast.' I could never get onto the return flight home fast enough.
charles sullivan
Life of the Party
East coast bias is nothing more than the west coast populations biased interperatation. People everywhere have insular perspectives. That is universal. The West Coast sports fan seems predisposed to feeling victimized.
Many West coast sports fand also think Pittsburgh is on the east coast which may add to the issue.
Many West coast sports fand also think Pittsburgh is on the east coast which may add to the issue.