Super El Nino

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There's been a lot of hype about the upcoming El Nino including articles predicting it may be the strongest on record. Bob Henson, one of the members of my weather geek Facebook group authored this excellent no hype discussion of what to expect. I think it's an outstanding summary of all things El Nino and if you are in this sort of thing, it is well worth wading through. Here's the link: El Nino
 
Mark at Stormsurf concurs, has been calling this out for the past few months
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"El Nino Developing Large Kelvin Wave #3 Poised to Erupt over Ecuador
In Nov '25 westerly anomalies associated with Active Phase of the MJO #1 took root producing a Kelvin Wave pushing warm subsurface waters east. In early January strong Active MJO #2 started producing a second WWB in the far West Pacific producing Kelvin Wave #2. Kelvin Waves #1 & #2 started impacted Ecuador in March. And in late Feb Active Phase #3 developed with strong west anomalies holding into 4/15. Large Kelvin Wave #3 is either poised to or is starting to erupt over Ecuador. Lower pressure is building over the dateline and high pressure is building over the Maritime Continent. A full turn to El Nino is setting up over the equatorial Pacific."

For his rational scroll down to the MJO/ENSO discussion.
 
Mark at Stormsurf concurs, has been calling this out for the past few months
:
"El Nino Developing Large Kelvin Wave #3 Poised to Erupt over Ecuador
In Nov '25 westerly anomalies associated with Active Phase of the MJO #1 took root producing a Kelvin Wave pushing warm subsurface waters east. In early January strong Active MJO #2 started producing a second WWB in the far West Pacific producing Kelvin Wave #2. Kelvin Waves #1 & #2 started impacted Ecuador in March. And in late Feb Active Phase #3 developed with strong west anomalies holding into 4/15. Large Kelvin Wave #3 is either poised to or is starting to erupt over Ecuador. Lower pressure is building over the dateline and high pressure is building over the Maritime Continent. A full turn to El Nino is setting up over the equatorial Pacific."

For his rational scroll down to the MJO/ENSO discussion.
Thanks for the link.
Here is Mark's YT podcast from the link in the Pacific Storm and Surf Forecast report with his commentary on the developing El Nino.
I bookmarked his page and YT channel for future reference and will keep checking it.

It's the same thing Cliff Mass posted back on April 9th
 
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Thanks for the link.
Here is Mark's YT podcast from the link in the Pacific Storm and Surf Forecast report with his commentary on the developing El Nino.
I bookmarked his page and YT channel for future reference and will keep checking it.

It's the same thing Cliff Mass posted back on April 9th

The whole Stormsurf started decades back when Mark, a former Florida based NASA scientist and very good surfer, moved to the bay area to take the job of head of IT for Kaiser and started surfing Mavericks.
Mark began teaching himself swell prediction so he could know when to show up from his east bay home, and was soon so spot on he created a website for a handful of Mavericks surfers that was initially password protected. Surfers being surfers they started giving their passwords to friends and the password firewall became meaningless, so Mark opened it up and began building what Stormsurf is today - a world recognized swell predictor used across the globe. I used his tools to build a predictor for my fave Oregon lineups when I moved up here, and it tended to be money.
 
Washington Post article on 'Super El Nino', and the global havoc the last one inflicted.

"El Niño is a warming of ocean waters in the east-central tropical Pacific that develops every few years. This year, ocean temperatures there could surge 3 degrees Celsius (5.4 degrees Fahrenheit) above average and break records.
The climatic shift devastated crops nearly 150 years ago, raising the question of whether a similar disruption could threaten global food security yet again. The strongest El Niño on record from 1877 to 1878 fueled conditions that led to a global famine which killed more than 50 million people across India, China, Brazil and elsewhere. That was 3 to 4 percent of the estimated global population at the time, equal to at least 250 million people if it happened today"


 
The whole Stormsurf started decades back when Mark, a former Florida based NASA scientist and very good surfer, moved to the bay area to take the job of head of IT for Kaiser and started surfing Mavericks.
Mark began teaching himself swell prediction so he could know when to show up from his east bay home, and was soon so spot on he created a website for a handful of Mavericks surfers that was initially password protected. Surfers being surfers they started giving their passwords to friends and the password firewall became meaningless, so Mark opened it up and began building what Stormsurf is today - a world recognized swell predictor used across the globe. I used his tools to build a predictor for my fave Oregon lineups when I moved up here, and it tended to be money.

Do these swell predictions imply anything about surf fishing?
 
From a guy that lived in So Cal from 1977 to 2017. Just my non scientific two cents. "El Niño" happens there every 5 to 7 years. Lots of rain and lots of surf, for about thee months. Ronald Reagan actually gave disaster relief for an El Niño event for businesses (construction, fishing etc). I personally received ten checks for ten weeks in one envelope. The bank teller looked at me in disbelief. I simply said "It's Reganomics".
 
Any hint of an El Niño was always troublesome. The thought of your income being erased for several months haunted every construction contractor and every commercial fisherman, every 5-7 years. Now a "super El Niño"? Dang that is worrisome.
 
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Back in the day the "computer models" were nowhere near as reliable. But after about five years, we would be expecting the next El Niño event. Tuna Crabs were a bad sign. Literally BILLIONS of them would show up in the kelp beds. Then came the "Sailors", first just a few, then millions of them.
Then came the weather. Huge swells, day after day, week after week, month after month..ripping out every kelp stalk and leaving the kelp bed to rot on the wave savaged beaches. The rocks of the reefs were tossed and turned with great harm to all the bottom dwellers.
But afterward, within a few months the ocean began to heal itself. The fisherman could fish, the construction workers could build. But the threat of the next El Niño event was always understood to be just 5 to 7 years away.
 
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If anyone is interested... AI.

Past El Niño Events in Southern California (1960s to Present)​

El Niño is a climate pattern characterized by unusually warm ocean temperatures in the Equatorial Pacific. This warming alters the subtropical jet stream, which often—though not always—steers powerful winter storms, heavy rainfall, and massive surf into Southern California.

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While no two El Niño events are exactly alike, several over the past six decades have left a lasting mark on the region's landscape and infrastructure.




The "Super" El Niños

These three seasons are infamous in Southern California history for their extreme intensity, bringing devastating flooding, landslides, and aggressive coastal erosion.

  • 2015–2016: Interestingly, this "Monster" El Niño fell short of the catastrophic rainfall totals many expected in Southern California. However, it generated record-breaking surf and ocean energy that caused severe, rapid coastal erosion, particularly in areas like Imperial Beach. The unusually warm waters also pushed subtropical marine life much further north than usual.

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  • 1997–1998: Often remembered as one of the most intense El Niños of the 20th century. It brought unrelenting, torrential rains that triggered widespread mudslides and flooding across Southern California. It caused hundreds of millions of dollars in damage statewide and resulted in 17 storm-related fatalities.



  • 1982–1983: One of the most destructive winters in California's modern history. Relentless storms and massive waves devastated the coastline. The US Army Corps of Engineers reported that 33 oceanfront homes were destroyed, and thousands of other properties and businesses were damaged by storm surges and erosion.

 
Back in the day the "computer models" were nowhere near as reliable. But after about five years, we would be expecting the next El Niño event. Tuna Crabs were a bad sign. Literally BILLIONS of them would show up in the kelp beds. Then came the "Sailors", first just a few, then millions of them.
Then came the weather. Huge swells, day after day, week after week, month after month..ripping out every kelp stalk and leaving the kelp bed to rot on the wave savaged beaches. The rocks of the reefs were tossed and turned with great harm to all the bottom dwellers.
But afterward, within few months the ocean began to heal itself. The fisherman could fish, the construction workers could build. But the threat of the next El Niño event was always understood to be just 5 to 7 years away.
One of the biggest threats to kelp beds, especially giant kelp (Macrocystis pyrifera) in Southern California is the lack of nutrients that typically accompanies a strong El Niño. While giant kelp has the potential to grow at an amazing rate (a foot or more per day), that growth rate requires ample supplies of nutrients, nitrogen and phosphorus especially. Unlike vascular plants, such as trees, kelps have little ability to transport nutrients from their holdfasts to their blades; blade growth depends on nutrient levels circulating around the blades near the ocean surface.
During a strong El Niño, the process of upwelling is greatly reduced. During upwelling, winds traveling toward the equator along the West Coast (either of NA or SA) push warm, nutrient-poor surface water offshore (aided by the Coriolis effect). This water is replaced by cold, nutrient-rich deeper water from the aphotic zone (> 200' deep). This combination of light and nutrients supports explosive photosynthesis and growth by phytoplankton = single-celled algae (such as diatoms) and macroalgae (such as giant kelp). Upper levels of the food chain exploit this abundance.
Without upwelling and with the resultant low nutrient levels during a typical El Niño, phytoplankton and giant kelp densities are significantly reduced. Because these algae form the base of the food web, all other levels are reduced dramatically. For example in Chile and Peru (origin of the name El Niño = the Christ Child because the impacts are seen in their summer), this lack of upwelling causes the anchoveta populations to crash. Higher food levels, like salmon and marine mammals, are severely impacted.
If the effects of a strong El Niño hit the Washington coast, the only "good" news might be the presence more tropical exotics (e.g., bluefin tuna, marlin, even mahi mahi) off the coast and perhaps shorter travel distances to reach albacore offshore. Otherwise, expect poor survival for out migrating salmon smolts (see here). The survivors that migrate up to the Gulf of Alaska should be fine, but many fewer will make it (with cascading impacts on returns a few years later). Salmon populations off Central / Southern Oregon and California will be especially hard hit by the reduction in productivity as these populations do not migrate to the Gulf of Alaska. Higher rains in California may benefit in-stream survival.
Steve
 
The 2015 event really messed up Puget Sound salmon fishing. The 2015 season closed early and then the regulations were very restrictive in 2016. Let’s hope we don’t get a repeat of that.
SF
 
I'm is socal and I can see catalina out my window. I'm a glass half full guy. El Nino is going to give us great winter ski season in Mammoth possibly record snows and could make it north to Tahoe. The warm ElNino waters will bring Dorado and other pelagics north all the way North to Catalina. It's going to be a great fishing year too. The warm water will bring more yellowfin and spotfin croaker and corbina to the surf perfect for the flyrod off the beach. It's going to be great!
 
There was a decently strong El Nino in fall 2023 - spring 2024. I remember the news headlines in 2023 were similar to those seen today. These events have positive and negative effects. It made fishing in French Polynesia a hell of a lot tougher in the rain and wind. Christmas Island fishing was also challenging due to the huge ocean swells and wind churning up the flats and outer reef. Still caught tons of fish though.
 
The 2015 event really messed up Puget Sound salmon fishing. The 2015 season closed early and then the regulations were very restrictive in 2016. Let’s hope we don’t get a repeat of that.
SF
It really messed with the North Sound coho. 2016 was the year of trout-sized coho. Fish on the redds were mostly 16-18” and scrawny things. But they bounced back. Salmon are resilient if we give them a chance.
 
Gonna have to stand up to this Nino. Gonna have to MAKE A STAND!!!!! who's in??? Gonna have to STAND UP TO THIS NINO.

Gonna take strength. We're gonna have to get a good number of FIGHTERS standing HEAVILY ARMED to FACE this Nino. Fire into the storm!!!!!!! Fire heavy rounds INTO THE STORM!!!!!!!!! make a stand against this Nino!!!! No weak links!!!!!

Worked in FLORIDA couple years back. These guys organized and forned a Strong Group to stand and FIRE into the oncoming storm!!!!!!! Deterred the hurricane. We're gonna need a similar show of FORCE to stand up to this Nino!!!!!!
 
It really messed with the North Sound coho. 2016 was the year of trout-sized coho. Fish on the redds were mostly 16-18” and scrawny things. But they bounced back. Salmon are resilient if we give them a chance.

Matt,
If I remember correctly, 2015 was the year with all the small coho. We caught a ton of them in the salt. It was like they were starving and would eat anything. WDFW closed the season early in 2015. In 2016, season was very restrictive and salmon fishing closed August 15th in MA 9. We had some great fishing for super nice size resident coho in 2016 up until the closure. The run forecasts were off but by then the salt season was over. WDFW ended up opening Lk Wa for coho as well as the Skagit for wild coho which was a bitter pill for many after the Puget Sound closures. It was either 2015 or 16 I believe when they first implemented beach only fishing regs as a conservation measure.
After all these years the season seem to blend together but that is how I remember things. Regardless, the blob did a number on the 2015 coho numbers and fish size.
El Niño may be great for some but certainly not for us in the PNW and our fish.
SF
 
Stories like the one in the Washington Post are the kind that's driving meteorologists and climatologists crazy. Within the group I am a part of, there have been several discussion threads about how the media is treating (hyping) this event. The group felt that the article by Bob Henson (link at the top) is probably the most accurate summary to date.

Below is a copy/paste of a comment by Dr John Monteverdi (retired meteorology professor - San Francisco State) who is one of the site administrators who sums up the frustration:

Imagine a well-informed person reading the Washington Post article on the upcoming warm ENSO event. That person would see this graphic that is mostly unexplained, except by the heading "Super El Niño" and the two indicated years. They would think they were now informed about the comparison between the consensus forecast and some extreme event in the 19th century. However, that person would not know that 19th century sea surface temperature anomalies were obtained by estimate using the (literally) bucket measurements of ocean temperatures. Those measurements were not standardized by depth or instrument. It's not that those estimates are without value, but they should be used as an indication not a firm estimate of the values. That person would not know that not only was the 2026 pattern shown here is not a firm deterministic forecast, but one of the most extreme solutions from a model that has been shown to overestimate SST temperatures. Finally, the article has the feeling of "truth" and capturing the pulse of the professional opinions on the upcoming event. That person would not realize that not even the term "Super El Niño" exists as a real term. Perhaps in the future, but not yet. That future may bring us a pattern that is close to the most extreme solution, but it certainly is not the consensus solution as of May 14, 2026.

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