Shops newsletters, reports and... hotspotting?

I don't think it's as generational as you think. This thread was started by a millennial who values what these fisheries are. In my time on the internet, I've seen a LOT of spot burning and spot requests from the older generations.

I think it just plain comes down to individuals. Before the internet, we had things like Fishing & Hunting News doing the spot burning legwork. I know I had some of my special spots blown up back in the 90s by them.
Hot-spotting in 1938

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Ah yes, Fishing and Hunting News. They tried hot spotting but their reports were terrible. They relied on resorts and local fishing shops for the information on the fisheries. That is why the reports on a specific river or lake would never be below "fair". Usually they inflated the catch rate to entice customers to stop by their resort or shop.
 
I don't think it's as generational as you think. This thread was started by a millennial who values what these fisheries are. In my time on the internet, I've seen a LOT of spot burning and spot requests from the older generations.

I think it just plain comes down to individuals. Before the internet, we had things like Fishing & Hunting News doing the spot burning legwork. I know I had some of my special spots blown up back in the 90s by them.

You said it twice in your post: "Internet."

Everybody has a broadcast platform now. One that is way more efficient than the loose lips methods of the past.
 
You said it twice in your post: "Internet."

Everybody has a broadcast platform now. One that is way more efficient than the loose lips methods of the past.
I think you seriously underestimate the reach fishing and hunting news had in the past. Their readership was many, many multitudes bigger than these email lists. You didn't have to know what or where to search. They just handed it to you in every issue.

The internet absolutely is its own beast. But this isn't a new phenomenon.
 
Sidetrack: Years ago in Vermont our local newpaper interviewed one of the guides from the Stowe Fly Rod Shop. The guide took her on a secret stream and was quoted as saying "If I told you [the name of this stream], I'd have to kill you." It looked like my kind of stream, one I hadn't fished before. The online version of the article had a picture and the metadata in the picture included the geolocation of the photo. I headed out there and had a banner brookie day!
 
I think you seriously underestimate the reach fishing and hunting news had in the past. Their readership was many, many multitudes bigger than these email lists. You didn't have to know what or where to search. They just handed it to you in every issue.

The internet absolutely is its own beast. But this isn't a new phenomenon.

No argument that this hotspotting is not a new phenomenon. With the Internet, you get video, trip reports, opinions, a forum to ask questions and argue with others, and more. All without un-assing the couch and visiting a magazine stand. Now all you have to do is search. It's just way more efficient.
 
No argument that this hotspotting is not a new phenomenon. With the Internet, you get video, trip reports, opinions, a forum to ask questions and argue with others, and more. All without un-assing the couch and visiting a magazine stand. Now all you have to do is search. It's just way more efficient.
I will say that in for the most part, most internet posts speak in general areas. Especially when it comes to the more special, less discovered spots, there seems to be a certain level of discretion being kept overall. I can think of quite a few programs I know to still not be talked about online.

Fishing & Hunting news, every issue, literally had maps with exact spots to stand and fish, or an x over which duck blind to use. I still have yet to see anything even remotely close to as bad on the regular as what they did. And it seemed that just about everyone had a subscription, so you'd learn the secrets every time you sat for your morning throne appointment.
 
I've never read Fishing and Hunting news.

Most Internet forums do keep things general. This forum is fantastic at holding itself to a vety high standard. Not all do though, especially individuals who just need to overshare.

Having said that, I'm not one of the ten percent who catches ninety percent of the fish, so I could use a little more blatant hotspotting... 😁
 
I've never read Fishing and Hunting news.

Most Internet forums do keep things general. This forum is fantastic at holding itself to a vety high standard. Not all do though, especially individuals who just need to overshare.

Having said that, I'm not one of the ten percent who catches ninety percent of the fish, so I could use a little more blatant hotspotting... 😁
Fishing & Hunting news has been gone for some time. But it was a staple in many households for a few decades.
 
Liars Gazette...
Every river mapped down to what rock to stand on, and all of them fishing well.

' Old Cletus at the Dew Drop Inn says fish are to be found throughout the system, with fresh fish in the lower reaches with the tide. Eggs, shrimp and even some lures are working well. '

:)
 
Fishing & Hunting news has been gone for some time. But it was a staple in many households for a few decades.
I remember when I was 16 I shot a bunch of ducks with dad and friends at a spot. They watched the show from nearby and didn't like that so they printed my exact spot with an X on it😡
 
Sidetrack: Years ago in Vermont our local newpaper interviewed one of the guides from the Stowe Fly Rod Shop. The guide took her on a secret stream and was quoted as saying "If I told you [the name of this stream], I'd have to kill you." It looked like my kind of stream, one I hadn't fished before. The online version of the article had a picture and the metadata in the picture included the geolocation of the photo. I headed out there and had a banner brookie day!
I've made this mistake before on this forum. When I export my photos out from Lightroom they're named. Someone here thankfully told me the names show up when hovered upon. I've since started taking screenshots so they're a generic, useless name.
 
No argument that this hotspotting is not a new phenomenon. With the Internet, you get video, trip reports, opinions, a forum to ask questions and argue with others, and more. All without un-assing the couch and visiting a magazine stand. Now all you have to do is search. It's just way more efficient.

This is exactly why Im asking a shop with a relatively large following to (kindly) stop.
 
While they've still unfortunately yet to respond, they have at least given great advice in a recent newsletter on how to proceed.

"Keep sending those emails, and let's see what our collective community can do!"

Granted this is in regards to getting ODFW to make a change. I'll just have to use their advice to see if they're willing to change 🤷‍♂️.

And if you care and have time, I suggest you do as well. @Snopro i know you joked at first until you saw some names, I’m sure they’d love to hear from you ;)
 
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The PDX area trout reports have almost always been written by one specific guy. He is nice, maybe you could contact him directly? I think he might be open to hearing you out, or at least making spots a little less specific.
 
The PDX area trout reports have almost always been written by one specific guy. He is nice, maybe you could contact him directly? I think he might be open to hearing you out, or at least making spots a little less specific.
Totally happy to. Unfortunately I have no way of contacting him, therefore I’m attempting to contact the shop/owner/person that signs off on his reports.
 
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