RV and Truck sales at risk in Washington

I'm just glad I bought my 4x4 F250 super duty turbo diesel in 1996.
This pickup has 250,000 plus miles on it, empty highway, 20 plus miles per gal. pulling my 20' camp trailer 15 to 18 depending on the wind.
If something happens to this truck I will rebuild it before I buy a newer one.
 
Josh said:
This is from the Autopian article I posted above:



Diesel F250/350/etc trucks would fall into the same bucket as the Sprinter campers, they aren't at risk because companies like Ford likely meet the EV sales mandate with their other products. Gas pickup trucks of any size aren't affected as this is a diesel only regulation. Large diesel RVs are at risk because none of those companies are making any EVs of any sort.

Not getting into the discussion as to if this regulation is smart or dumb, just adding in some clarification.
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From the article "Manufacturers will be restricted from selling gas- or diesel-powered vehicles over 8,500 pounds unless they first meet the ZEV sales targets".

I'll be keeping an eye on this, likely to replace my 3/4 ton pickup in the next couple yrs.

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FinLuver said:
For $.5M to $1.5M…think of how many really really lavish vacations you could take with the Mrs…without the headaches of maintaining and moving around a long land yacht?
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A few years ago my wife and I were considering buying an RV or travel trailer and after thinking about it, this is why we decided to bail on the idea. Also, it is becoming increasingly difficult to find a place to stay that I would actually find enjoyable. Too often campgrounds are all booked up or overcrowded with obnoxious people.
 
FinLuver said:
For $.5M to $1.5M…think of how many really really lavish vacations you could take with the Mrs…without the headaches of maintaining and moving around a long land yacht?
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Fortunately there are many options to RV without spending that kind of cash. And there is plenty of cheap or free camping available in the west. This year we went to Zion and Bryce for two weeks and paid zero $ for camping. I spent a month in MT and ID and spent $153 on camping fees - An average of $5.46 per day. My only close neighbors were my friends and the only obnoxious neighbors were a few rodents.
 
dirty dog said:
I'm just glad I bought my 4x4 F250 super duty turbo diesel in 1996.
This pickup has 250,000 plus miles on it, empty highway, 20 plus miles per gal. pulling my 20' camp trailer 15 to 18 depending on the wind.
If something happens to this truck I will rebuild it before I buy a newer one.
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Bought new the early 99 Superduty 7.3 . My favorite truck to date . Would still have it if it would have had the power to tow a big fifth wheel ,unfortunately it didn't . My 7.3 didn't do too bad towing smaller Rv's in the 16 years I had it . Although it never seen 20 mpg, it did see 16-17 empty. 10-12 towing .
 
one wonders how it will impact the Sprinter conversion/RV market, which is growing at 20% a year. Those diesel rigs when in 4x4 config push 14K. Some friends downsized to one a few years ago, selling their Chevy Duramax/luxury fifth wheel. Claim they love the ease of driving it, comfortable for a week or so then time to check into lodging for a stretch. Nice rig, they paid 180K for it. That's a whole lot per foot.
 
SurfnFish said:
one wonders how it will impact the Sprinter conversion/RV market, which is growing at 20% a year. Those diesel rigs when in 4x4 config push 14K. Some friends downsized to one a few years ago, selling their Chevy Duramax/luxury fifth wheel. Claim they love the ease of driving it, comfortable for a week or so then time to check into lodging for a stretch. Nice rig, they paid 180K for it. That's a whole lot per foot.
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But it also results in a whole lot of more places you could actually use such an RV...as well as a much greater number of places that can do the inevitable repairs and PM.

For a few things 'bigger' ain't necessarily 'better'.
 
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But it also results in a whole lot of more places you could actually use such an RV...as well as a much greater number of places that can do the inevitable repairs and PM.
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x2...I'm a fan, not a critic. My friends love their rig, having traded pull through RV sites for cruising through national parks to metro sight seeing and nights spent off grid.
Our RV days were pulling a 23' fifth wheel with flipped axles for clearance behind a lifted one ton 78' Ford Ranger Supercab 4x4 with a 460/RV cam, averaged 6 mpg, usually on two week trips with the kids, destination always rivers and lakes throughout the PNW. Good times
 
SurfnFish said:
x2...I'm a fan, not a critic. My friends love their rig, having traded pull through RV sites for cruising through national parks to metro sight seeing and nights spent off grid.
Our RV days were pulling a 23' fifth wheel with flipped axles for clearance behind a lifted one ton 78' Ford Ranger Supercab 4x4 with a 460/RV cam, averaged 6 mpg, usually on two week trips with the kids, destination always rivers and lakes throughout the PNW. Good times
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Indeed.

I've got an old friend, recently retired, who's now spending most of this and the upcoming year circumnavigating North America in just such a rig.
 
Aufwuchs said:
A few years ago my wife and I were considering buying an RV or travel trailer and after thinking about it, this is why we decided to bail on the idea. Also, it is becoming increasingly difficult to find a place to stay that I would actually find enjoyable. Too often campgrounds are all booked up or overcrowded with obnoxious people.
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Amen to the campground clusterfuck! And they charge exorbitant rates to sleep next door to some obnoxious cretin that you wouldn't even want driving through your neighborhood, much less having for a next door neighbor! The golden age of RV camping has come and gone. You missed it.....
 
Buy in Oregon or Idaho.. or does Washington plan to refuse to register them?
 
Oregon is possibly going that way. Thank you, California! Grrrr!
 
Rob Allen said:
Buy in Oregon or Idaho.. or does Washington plan to refuse to register them?
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Applies to vehicles built in 2025.

Washington will not license the new ones bought elsewhere until they are considered 'used' aka have over 7500 miles on them.

Road trip!
 
I plan on keeping my 2005 1-ton Ford diesel pickup!
 
Sensible or not, all efforts to control/reduce air pollution and for good reason.
During the 70's while running a 65' charter boat out of Half Moon Bay, when 12 miles offshore on a sunny day at the 'deep reef' I could look towards shore and clearly see land with some detail.
Few years ago I was back at the deep reef on a sunny day as a guest on a friends boat, and all I could see looking towards shore through the pollution haze was a very dim outline of the upper coastal hills...12 miles offshore with a light onshore sea breeze that should have been making the air as clear as possible.
 
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SurfnFish said:
Sensible or not, all efforts to control/reduce air pollution and for good reason.
During the 70's while running a 65' charter boat out of Half Moon Bay, when 12 miles offshore on a sunny day at the 'deep reef' I could look towards shore and see clearly see land with some detail.
Few years ago I was back at the deep reef on a sunny day as a guest on a friends boat, and all I could see looking towards shore through the pollution haze was a very dim outline of the upper coastal hills...12 miles offshore with a light onshore sea breeze that should have been making the air as clear as possible.
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I do not perceive the intent of this legislation as being anti pollution, like AT ALL..
I believe it to be entirely malicious and punitive to a select hated industry.
 
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