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Brian Miller said:
  • Per Capita Spending: Federal government spending nationwide is roughly 98 times higher in nominal terms than during the WWI era and cospends billi0ons on weapons system that never even nues to rise faster than inflation, reaching over $20,000 per person in FY2025.
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WW1 era - no Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid, no federal education system, no national highway network, no 5,000 airports, no statewide piped domestic water or natural gas, no military-industrial complex, no Center for Disease Control, etc, etc...and an average life span of 52 years vs today's 79 years.
ah, the good old days...
 
Brian Miller said:
A quick search resulted in...

In the 1960s: Federal grants to state and local governments nationwide were relatively small, totaling $7 billion in FY1960 and growing to $24 billion by FY1970, with a major expansion during the "Great Society" era in the mid-1960s.
Now (2020s): Federal aid to Washington state has risen to billions annually. In FY2022, Washington state government received approximately $28.1 billion in federal transfers, accounting for 23.5% of its revenue.

That increase probably is a little higher than per capita population growth and inflation
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AG Brown sued Fed. for the $137 million that was frozen toward education. Question in earnest, has this ever been resolved?
 
Brian Miller said:
  • Real Growth: The growth in federal funding has significantly outpaced inflation. Total state and local government spending, fueled by federal grants, has more than doubled in real (inflation-adjusted) terms since 1970.
  • Medicaid Growth: A major driver of the inflation-adjusted increase is Medicaid. Federal share of Medicaid spending grew from 55% to 69% between 1977 and 2021.
  • Per Capita Spending: Federal government spending nationwide is roughly 98 times higher in nominal terms than during the WWI era and continues to rise faster than inflation, reaching over $20,000 per person in FY2025.
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Yeah mandatory spending on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security is like 60% of the budget, and healthcare costs for an aging population (Medical care prices in 2026 are over 1,600% higher than in 1970) are very high, and getting higher.
No easy solutions, however comparisons to 1916 are somewhat skewed, as the society is much different, and many things we use regularly today weren't in existence then...
 
SurfnFish said:
WW1 era - no Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid, no federal education system, no national highway network, no 5,000 airports, no statewide piped domestic water or natural gas, no military-industrial complex, no Center for Disease Control, etc, etc...and an average life span of 52 years vs today's 79 years.
ah, the good old days...
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Your quote of my remarks is not accurate.
 
Josh said:
Hmmmm, historical evidence across this and the previous forum doesn't ENTIRELY support your findings.

Here's some video footage of a "Are beads considered flies?" thread.

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Or the When am I going to catch my first steelhead' threads...

 
Snopro said:
Dude could conjure up bread, wine and fish at will so he had zero food budget. He was sleeping at the girlfriend's place or rotating through one of many disciple's couches so not homeless. He mistakenly picked up Mary Magdalene's blouse off the floor in the dark and wore it for picture day.
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Man, don't want to be standing near you in a thunderstorm ...
 
Flymph said:
AG Brown sued Fed. for the $137 million that was frozen toward education. Question in earnest, has this ever been resolved?
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In late August 2025, Washington Attorney General Nick Brown announced a settlement in a multistate lawsuit that required the U.S. Department of Education to release the full balance of the withheld funding, along with an additional $13 million for adult education and workforce development.
 
Paige said:
Could somebody please find @Mumbles bead vs swing cartoon, was some damn funny, and the one of him and old man Jim!
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Couldn't find one from Mumbles, but found some cantankerous bead threads on the site that shall not be named!

Also a blast from the past with members like GOTY, Poopy McButtfart and Jeremy Floyd to named a few..

These two images stood out..

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Mossback said:
Yeah mandatory spending on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security is like 60% of the budget, and healthcare costs for an aging population (Medical care prices in 2026 are over 1,600% higher than in 1970) are very high, and getting higher.
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  • The Aging Baby Boomers: As the large cohort born after World War II passes age 65, they make up a larger proportion of the total population.
  • Increased Life Expectancy: People are living longer, healthier lives, which expands the 65+ demographic.
  • Declining Fertility Rates: Women are having fewer children, dropping the birth rate below the replacement level needed to maintain a younger population balance.
  • Lower Mortality Rates: Advances in medicine and technology have reduced death rates for older populations, increasing the number of seniors.
By 2030, all baby boomers will be over 65, and by 2034, adults 65+ are projected to outnumber children under 18 for the first time in U.S. history.
 
How mad do you think Rob would be if he got an EV and then discovered that he had to pay an additional $225 for tabs on top of what he would have to pay for a gas powered car? It is a shame that it will never happen, because that would be an entertaining thread 😜
 
Aging population, primarily due to medical care advances (due in large part to federal research funding), childhood vaccinations ( dramatic decrease in early age mortality), and improvements in nutrition over time.

So...the options here are clear...
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Mossback said:
Aging population, primarily due to medical care advances (due in large part to federal research funding), childhood vaccinations ( dramatic decrease in early age mortality), and improvements in nutrition over time.

So...the options here are clear...
😁🤣😁
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Logans Run? Old movie.. making sure people know I'm soooo old!! 😄
 
Mossback said:
Yeah mandatory spending on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security is like 60% of the budget, and healthcare costs for an aging population (Medical care prices in 2026 are over 1,600% higher than in 1970) are very high, and getting higher.
No easy solutions, however comparisons to 1916 are somewhat skewed, as the society is much different, and many things we use regularly today weren't in existence then...
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Tax the richest instead of a free pass. Quit believing economic misnomers. As generous as we boomers have been we are not so generous that we will volunteer for the chambers to help yet again. By the way we fund this crapola and always have. Even with the climate change of urine rainstorms from on high.
 
I'm gonna start a Go Fund Me for my tabs next year...
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Healthcare is extremely expensive and for good reasons. Service on construction and medical equipment debt, pension payouts, employee salaries and benefits, constant maintenance and reinvestment in the facility, a range of insurances= the average metro hospital operating costs are 10M a day.
Where things really matter is the difference in patient morbidity (an infection the patient incurs that they didn't have when entering the hospital) rates between for profit and non-profit hospitals. The former manages leaner to generate shareholder profits, the latter reinvests in the operation, the for profits consistently run higher infection and mortality rates...my wife did her masters thesis in community health on exactly that.
 
Mossback said:
Aging population, primarily due to medical care advances (due in large part to federal research funding), childhood vaccinations ( dramatic decrease in early age mortality), and improvements in nutrition over time.
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Yet the population is aging... :unsure:

The declining U.S. birth rate is a primary driver of population aging, alongside longer life expectancies and the aging Baby Boomer generation. With fertility falling below the replacement rate (1.6 in 2024), fewer children are entering the population, shrinking the labor force and rapidly accelerating the median age, leading to a projected 23% of Americans being 65+ by 2080.
 
“loans as usury and a sin, rooted in biblical commands against exploiting the poor and Aquinas’s view that money is sterile. Modern Christian denominations generally define usury as excessive or extortionate interest rather than simply charging interest, with many seeing high-interest lending as sinful exploitation“

A career in sin employs more than any other career path today…. ;)
 
Sorry guys, I've been crazy busy lately so falling behind on things.

I appreciate the general civility displayed in the many pages of this thread. I think having these discussions in that manner can be healthy from time to time which is why we let it continue.

That said, we don't want to set a precedent of letting this happen regularly, and letting it go until it inevitably spirals. It's also just not what we want on the top of the discussion board for this long.

So we'll close this one up while I have a moment here.
 
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