Ha! I'm just giving him a hard time - he knows I love him. I really don't have anything against euro. Whatever floats your boat, more power to ya.I laugh but since 2018 I have only fished streams with fixed line Tenkara and Keiryu rods.
Personal Protection
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Steelhead
I think that the previous posters have given good info about protection from animals. Keep in mind that if a person is 20 feet away from you and wants to attack you, he will be on you in less than two seconds. Can you pull the gun from your holster, aim, and fire in that time? It takes most people that long to even realize somebody means you harm. And as a wise man who posted earlier said, bear spray is reversible, a gunshot is not.
I'm not at all against you purchasing a handgun; it's perfectly within your rights to do so to protect yourself and family, if you indeed feel that the environment you live in warrants it. But I do agree, you have to really know how to use one properly, until it's muscle memory, if you plan to use it for self-defense.
I'm not at all against you purchasing a handgun; it's perfectly within your rights to do so to protect yourself and family, if you indeed feel that the environment you live in warrants it. But I do agree, you have to really know how to use one properly, until it's muscle memory, if you plan to use it for self-defense.
X2..videos are readily available online from martial arts instructors that square off an attacker 20' away armed with a rubber knife, and a defender with a holstered fake handgun. In almost every practice a reasonably agile attacker will be on an upright defender before the defender can clear their firearm, and this is with the defender expecting an attack.
An effective defense for such an attack requires the defender to throw themselves onto their back and guard/kick with their feet while working their weapon free for deployment. Defense fighting from the back is a commonly taught technique in both martial art studios as well as in defense clinics for women, paired with yelling at the top of their lungs for help while doing so.
jaredoconnor
Peabrain Chub
I just hung a bear spray can and some neutralizer off the stroller. Gave me peace of mind. Had lots of wildlife activity this summer, including one particularly aggressive and bold coyote roaming the streets.
Haven’t bought anything for protection from two legged animals. Just gonna have to roll the dice on that one.
Banned user
Steelhead
LOL; when I was a young man, a drunken friend came at me (not with a weapon, and not even with a very serious intent to hurt me). I saw him coming, dropped to my back, and he had no time to stop. His stomach landed on my upraised feet, which promptly launched him about five feet in the air, and he came down in a clump, all our friends laughing at him, and even he started laughing.
We're friends to this day. I've known that guy since 1977.
Uptonogood
PNW raised
I’ve been handling firearms since I was seven (under VERY close adult supervision) and have had six different firearm safety courses including two in the Air Force prior to deployment in Vietnam. I’ve lived in five large cities and four smaller ones. I’ve hunted big game and dangerous in four countries, fired rifles from BB to .375. I’ve had a concealed carry permit for 30+ years but only carried concealed one time since Vietnam. I never fired my M16 in Vietnam other than registering it on a range after arriving in-country. That situation where I carried concealed was in a situation arose when my wife and I were staying with a woman in Tallahassee, FL., who was a likely target of a drunk, crazy neighbor. we found out about the situation after we arrived at her home. Putting on a loaded concealed weapon really did NOT feel comfortable. I knew that if I had to pull that pistol I would use it and my life would never be the same. I’m glad you are hesitant and cautious. I recommend bear spray for four legged predators and extensive training and marksmanship for two legged.
Coach Potter
Life of the Party
Have you tried spraying that bear spray? It’s not a gun (obviously) but you might be surprised at the recoil from that canister.
Inert “practice” bear spray.
I used to fish in grizzly country quite a bit and I’ve considered getting one of these. Probably not a bad idea.
counterassault.com
I used to fish in grizzly country quite a bit and I’ve considered getting one of these. Probably not a bad idea.
Inert Training Canister (8.1 oz.)
Practice using bear spray with the 8.1 oz. Inert Training Practice Canister. Use the practice bear spray to learn how to aim and spray.
counterassault.com
Coach Potter
Life of the Party
That seems pretty smart!Inert “practice” bear spray.
I used to fish in grizzly country quite a bit and I’ve considered getting one of these. Probably not a bad idea.
Inert Training Canister (8.1 oz.)
Practice using bear spray with the 8.1 oz. Inert Training Practice Canister. Use the practice bear spray to learn how to aim and spray.
Coach Potter
Life of the Party
I deployed bear spray once, wanted to see what it was like. I was pretty surprised when it went off.
I don’t carry anything because I know I won’t practice
. My family got on me a few years back so I put a pistol in my Jeep but it never leaves the center console anymore. I carried it on a few outings but eventually I found some other piece of gear that took its place.
I love hunting more than anything…ironically I don’t like shooting at all. I have to force myself to shoot my bow before the season.
I don’t carry anything because I know I won’t practice
. My family got on me a few years back so I put a pistol in my Jeep but it never leaves the center console anymore. I carried it on a few outings but eventually I found some other piece of gear that took its place.I love hunting more than anything…ironically I don’t like shooting at all. I have to force myself to shoot my bow before the season.
Inert “practice” bear spray.
I used to fish in grizzly country quite a bit and I’ve considered getting one of these. Probably not a bad idea.
Inert Training Canister (8.1 oz.)
Practice using bear spray with the 8.1 oz. Inert Training Practice Canister. Use the practice bear spray to learn how to aim and spray.
I concur…seems like a good idea. I have an old canister that has expired according to the label that I’ve been saving for a practice session…hopefully from an upwind stance…
Just a thought for those considering personal protection from either 2 or 4 legged. Preface - I believe in responsible gun regulation but am certainly not anti-gun (have Concealed Carry permit and multiple firearms securely stored) + had extensive firearms training once upon a time.
The biggest issue I see (not just for myself but for others) is that we're all aware that discharging a firearm toward another will likely change our lives. We likely have much to lose, the folks presenting the danger probably not so much. People have and will continue to hesitate to deploy lethal response and that moment of indecision is often their undoing.
You may think you won't hesitate, but unless/until you're in that situation you don't really know.
So when I pull a deterrant I want to have no hesitation in deploying it, and I want it to work at a decent distance. That's why I much prefer something like this than carrying something more lethal. But as others have noted, it's your a$$ and your decision.
The biggest issue I see (not just for myself but for others) is that we're all aware that discharging a firearm toward another will likely change our lives. We likely have much to lose, the folks presenting the danger probably not so much. People have and will continue to hesitate to deploy lethal response and that moment of indecision is often their undoing.
You may think you won't hesitate, but unless/until you're in that situation you don't really know.
So when I pull a deterrant I want to have no hesitation in deploying it, and I want it to work at a decent distance. That's why I much prefer something like this than carrying something more lethal. But as others have noted, it's your a$$ and your decision.
Good idea. I used old cans that were beyond the expiration date for practice. I think it's important to know that even when discharged in the direction the wind is blowing, you still get some backdraft that chokes you up a bit. I just hope the bear is even far more impaired from the direct blast.Inert “practice” bear spray.
I used to fish in grizzly country quite a bit and I’ve considered getting one of these. Probably not a bad idea.
Inert Training Canister (8.1 oz.)
Practice using bear spray with the 8.1 oz. Inert Training Practice Canister. Use the practice bear spray to learn how to aim and spray.
Regarding the expiration date on these things. The pepper itself doesn't expire, but the propellant loses force over time. And I want that stuff to reach out the full 30'. That's plenty close enough for any bear that's bigger than me.
So here is a real life question for everyone.
Starting next year I will have a lot more time to fish. My preference is to hike streams and rivers for trout. My wife doesn't fish so most often it will be me, just me, hiking around and fishing.
I'll be 72 next year, am reasonably fit, but nowhere as strong or agile as I was in my 40's.
Should I be carrying? I am good around firearms and a reasonable shot. But also concerned for the chance encounters with unreasonable people while I'm alone with no help or backup.
Do you carry when you're alone in the woods?
Starting next year I will have a lot more time to fish. My preference is to hike streams and rivers for trout. My wife doesn't fish so most often it will be me, just me, hiking around and fishing.
I'll be 72 next year, am reasonably fit, but nowhere as strong or agile as I was in my 40's.
Should I be carrying? I am good around firearms and a reasonable shot. But also concerned for the chance encounters with unreasonable people while I'm alone with no help or backup.
Do you carry when you're alone in the woods?
I am 54, not a martial artist, and can't run fast or far. I do not carry when I am alone in the woods (except for bear spray in bear country). I think that people are generally good and I have some confidence in my ability to talk my way out of unpleasant two-legged encounters.
Coach Potter
Life of the Party
I don't carry either. Also, not a martial artist
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I do some of the time, depending on where I'm going, how far into the woods I'm going, how alone I'll be, how fucked I'd be if I ran into some crazy tweakers, if it's spring and mama bears will have young curious cubs, etc.
Only you can answer the question if you should carry!
No, and I've had firearms pointed my way many times as a surveyor.
Besides, I'm bipolar and could do something I'd really regret later.
I don't carry in the woods or on the rivers and lakes, however, there is always a handgun w/several magazines in my truck's ConsoleVault as well as $500 in 20's. I view it the same way as my tire changing kit, hope like hell to never have to use it.