I know a couple scientists and ain’t nobody going around talking about their work with O. tshawytscha. I wish. That would actually be rad. They say Chinook.
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justme2024
Steelhead
Idk what access/fisheries laws are like in the UK but it could be worth him spending some time figuring out what's legal access-wise and navigating getting a license and using the DFW apps. idk if the UK is one of the european countries that is strict about beats and has a board for each river but we have a different (better?) system in the US.
In Oregon you can generally walk in navigable streams below the high-water mark regardless of adjacent land-ownership, you have to find a public access point though (or private with permission). For most of the coastal streams that will look like a pull-off and a little scramble down to the river, or you can go to a boat ramp or public park but those are less common.
I'm not sure what the laws like in WA or CA so someone else could weigh in on that.
In Oregon you can generally walk in navigable streams below the high-water mark regardless of adjacent land-ownership, you have to find a public access point though (or private with permission). For most of the coastal streams that will look like a pull-off and a little scramble down to the river, or you can go to a boat ramp or public park but those are less common.
I'm not sure what the laws like in WA or CA so someone else could weigh in on that.
When I was a kid, back in the 50's and 60's, my folks had a place fronting the Nestucca River just upstream from the bridge in Pacific City. From the age of 10 I had unlimited use of our family 12' tin boat with a 7 1/2 Scott outboard. (That damned motor is why I learned to row so well.) There was a rat pack of a half-dozen pre-teen sumer boys and locals each with their own boat, mostly Shepcrafts, that tore up the river and bay all summer. A couple of the dads were fishing guides, so we were all versed in “official” local terminology.
The river featured 4 runs of anadromous fish. Starting around the 4th of July, Bluebacks entered the Nestucca and hung around in the miles of tidewater. Fresh from the ocean and lower bay, their backs were literally a dark blue. As they moved further into tidewater that faded. The name morphed into Sea-runs in the 70's.
The Chinook main run started in mid-to-late August. The guide dads held that if someone referred to them as Kings that person was undoubtedly from Portland, only fished once a year, didn't know how to rig his own herring, and was probably a doctor who read every issue of Field and Stream.
Next came the Silvers, the name shortened from Silverside salmon. Not counting Canadians, I don't think I heard someone say “Coho” until I was in college.
And then there were the Steelhead.
So those were the local terms on that stretch of the coast 65-70 years ago.
65-70 years ago the Nestucca was an incredible fishery, with annual catches in the thousands. Chinook filtered into the river 9 months of the year. Steelhead too. My folks sold the riverfront house in the 60's. They got $14,000 for it. They made out like bandits.
The river featured 4 runs of anadromous fish. Starting around the 4th of July, Bluebacks entered the Nestucca and hung around in the miles of tidewater. Fresh from the ocean and lower bay, their backs were literally a dark blue. As they moved further into tidewater that faded. The name morphed into Sea-runs in the 70's.
The Chinook main run started in mid-to-late August. The guide dads held that if someone referred to them as Kings that person was undoubtedly from Portland, only fished once a year, didn't know how to rig his own herring, and was probably a doctor who read every issue of Field and Stream.
Next came the Silvers, the name shortened from Silverside salmon. Not counting Canadians, I don't think I heard someone say “Coho” until I was in college.
And then there were the Steelhead.
So those were the local terms on that stretch of the coast 65-70 years ago.
65-70 years ago the Nestucca was an incredible fishery, with annual catches in the thousands. Chinook filtered into the river 9 months of the year. Steelhead too. My folks sold the riverfront house in the 60's. They got $14,000 for it. They made out like bandits.
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Gyrfalcon22
Legend
More along the lines of writing a paper/abstract for publication, or international correspondences amoung scientific folks. I agree, not too many locals trying out the long names. One area I do hear some latin "in the open" is when you get specific with invertebrates and there just aren't enough common names to go around.
If Chris is interested in the lower Rogue river I can furnish more detail in a message or email.
Chris, don't worry, no matter what you call fish here, you won't get the ridicule one of us would if we asked for a napkin with our lunch in London. Although being thought of as a Portlander on the Oregon coast is pretty near the bottom of the evolutionary ladder in terms of fishermen.
If you want a cheap saltwater charter trip the Depot bay trips for bottom fish or salmon are pretty reasonable, as the access to the ocean is very easy. The dory trips from pacific city are on the high end, but the experience of going out through the surf was worth it to me once, to check the box on my bucket list. It is pretty cool to see how the dorymen all work together, as our captain told us, even if they don't like each other, they help each other as regards going to sea.
If you want a cheap saltwater charter trip the Depot bay trips for bottom fish or salmon are pretty reasonable, as the access to the ocean is very easy. The dory trips from pacific city are on the high end, but the experience of going out through the surf was worth it to me once, to check the box on my bucket list. It is pretty cool to see how the dorymen all work together, as our captain told us, even if they don't like each other, they help each other as regards going to sea.
Millsfly
Steelhead
anytime I get down there, I try to go fishing with Grant Rillette. He runs a more gear centric program but is open to fly fishing. Incredible offering on the coast that can include rockfish, lings, salmon and more
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