NFR Neighbor's Lithium Battery Caused House Fire

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krusty

We're on the Road to Nowhere...
Last month, on one of Spokane's hottest days (105 to 109 F), my neighbor's attached garage erupted in heavy flames, destroying his 2024 truck, and two BMW motorcycles. The heat cooked off ammo, and a 20 lb LPG tank, scattering debris around the neighborhood.

They weren't home, but the FD arrived very rapidly with at least five trucks, and managed to stop its spread to the rest of the house, as well as save his hunting dog, which was trapped inside.

Everything inside the house was destroyed from the heavy smoke, and it will not be inhabitable until December when the contractors complete the interior renovation and rebuild the garage.

The cause? It's been determined that a 40V Ryobi weed whipper lithium ion battery sitting on its charger in the hot garage underwent a violent 'thermal runaway' event.

These sorts of incidents, which are increasing in number due the rapidly expanding use of lithium ion battery systems in a large variety of applications is not brand specific but rather due to the inherent hazards that exist with current Li-Ion technology when certain precautions are not taken (or manufacturing flaws that inevitably occur).

That's not to say lithium batteries shouldn't be used, but it does indicate that they are much more sensitive to HOW they are used than most of us may be aware.

The NFPA recommends that lithium ion batteries should be stored at normal room temperatures, never charged in temperatures below 32 F or above 105 F, and should not stay on a charger once it has been fully charged.
 
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Yikes. I've been adding a few 18V Ryobi tools lately. I don't usually leave batteries on the charger, but easy to get distracted and forget.
I've got a shitload of 18 and 40V Ryobi Li-Ion batteries, along with Dewalt, Nocqua, Dremel, Shark, Bosch e-bikes, Goal Zero, and an Ego mower battery. Will be much more careful now about storage and charging.

There have also been thermal runaway incidents caused by putting a battery on a charger while still hot from normal use....I've done that plenty of times. From now on they'll get a good cool down period after use.

These batteries can lose their structural integrity just sitting in a shed or garage over seasons of ambient temperature change.

I spent much of my work career managing industrial Process Safety Management programs, but this incident so close to home...doing something I've done...has me a bit rattled.
 
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Imagine responding to a fire and ammo going off? Fuck that....


An old neighbor of ours had a garage/workshop fire when I was young. I remember us all standing around watching the fire dept work and then starting to hear the muffled sounds of rounds going off. He was a big military collector and all sorts of random ammo in boxes and cans. We all pretty quickly moved back much further.
 
Crazy bad problem in China, razes whole apartment buildings...mostly from scooters, they don't have many lawns.

Good warning. Thanks.
 
Thanks for this. K and Abby should be home today from the 1st part of the trip. I'll have her double check the Ryobi batteries we have stored.
 
I remember the tales of don't run your dishwasher when you're away from home it might flood the house. Don't run your dryer while away, it might burn your house down.

You can idiot prove things, but idiots and fools will find a way.
 
I remember the tales of don't run your dishwasher when you're away from home it might flood the house. Don't run your dryer while away, it might burn your house down.

You can idiot prove things, but idiots and fools will find a way.
"Idiot prove"....sounds like something Ricky from Trailer Park Boys might come up with! 😆
 
These batteries are "new". The power that they hold has enabled things that were unheard of just a few years ago. Vaping batteries is one example. If used correctly they could potentially replace cigarettes with a far healthier alternative, however used recklessly they are a potential bomb. I took a 21700 "vaping battery" that was "tattered" out to my alley and hit it with a hammer. Holy hell broke loose, and I will never do that again. I just watched a video of some guy that went into an elevator with his E-bike battery...the battery just exploded in flames. He was trapped in the elevator with the battery, and was horrifically burned to death. These new batteries demand respect.
 
I'd like to add. If you throw a few rounds of ammunition into a campfire they will "go off",, but they will in no way be similar to a chambered round in a firearm. The rounds thrown into a campfirefire are immensely less dangerous than those shot out from the barrel of a gun. Still dangerous but not the same.
 
. I took a 21700 "vaping battery" that was "tattered" out to my alley and hit it with a hammer. Holy hell broke loose, and I will never do that again.
Just curious…why?
Sounds like something that 13 year old Matt B would do for sure. I’m still tempted, this sounds kind of awesome, but I also like my fingers and eyeballs the way they are.
 
We have seen race cars using Li batteries for lightness burning because hot under hood temps encourage thermal runaway. I stick to lead acid batteries in my racecar and find other places to cut weight.
 
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