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Snopro said:
A "truck" is only one of it's forms, and they aren't targeting the traditional truck audience. Like you said it's not for them. The consumer they are targeting is going to eat it up.
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I agree. I think they should do ok based on their target market. Similar to the Ford Maverick. If someone needs a real truck, they wouldn’t consider those but for everyday drivers with some needs like hauling light loads, they’ll work fine. All the trucks that used to be smaller are now bigger, so these fill that niche.
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The national average transaction price (ATP) for a new full-size pickup truck is $66,427, so 'needing' a truck means 'needing' it, not just wanting it, for most younger buyers.
 
Mossback said:
The national average transaction price (ATP) for a new full-size pickup truck is $66,427, so 'needing' a truck means 'needing' it, not just wanting it, for most younger buyers.
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Unfortunately, most have no, need, for a full size truck. More a status symbol. No longer viewed as needing it for work, farm, etc.
 
Most people don't 'need' what they drive...
The SUV is proof of that.
 
Mossback said:
Most people don't 'need' what they drive...
The SUV is proof of that.
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All one needs to do is look what's parked in any grocery store parking lot and how pristine they all look.
 
But you look cool in the parking lot. Which is the only place you can take it with the cost of fuel and insurance.
 
Going back to the original post, whatever you buy, think of this.
Not sure year of your Prious C, 45 mpg average?
Depending on what you purchase, if not comparable mileage, your fuel costs will increase. Doesn’t seem much, but if a mid sized suv, costs would double. As long as it fits your budget, no issues.
Good luck.
 
This is true...when the cost for a one day quick trip goes up by 100%, or even 50% depending on your budget, you make them less often.
It's like buying a 1500 dollar spey rod, then being too broke to go somewhere that actually has Steelhead to fish for.
 
Fourbtgait said:
Going back to the original post, whatever you buy, think of this.
Not sure year of your Prious C, 45 mpg average?
Depending on what you purchase, if not comparable mileage, your fuel costs will increase. Doesn’t seem much, but if a mid sized suv, costs would double. As long as it fits your budget, no issues.
Good luck.
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Oh yeah, definitely a consideration.
 
If MPG is the goal, hybrid's the way to go. My friend just drove to Bend from the coast in their AWD Sienna hybrid loaded with kids and gear and got 35 MPG. And the reliability of hybrid CVT's is superior as well.
Per Consumer Reports the top 3 in reliability remain Toyota, Honda and Subaru, which ranked first in their recent annual.
Nissan, conversely, is a sinking ship of non-dependability with dealerships closing cross the country. A local guide bought a brand new Titan, and three months later the Bend Nissan dealership abruptly closed. Nearest factory service now 2.5 hours away.

Brand Reliability Breakdown:
    • Highly Reliable (e-CVTs): Hybrid vehicles from Toyota and Honda use an electronic continuously variable transmission (e-CVT) that relies on durable planetary gears rather than a belt, making them incredibly robust and practically bulletproof. [1, 2]
    • Reasonably Reliable: Non-hybrid CVTs from Toyota, Honda, and Subaru have improved significantly over the years and hold up well to everyday commuting. [1, 2]
    • Mixed Reputation: Nissan has historically struggled with CVT reliability—particularly in models built between 2014 and 2018. However, recent models have been heavily redesigned and feature improved software and cooling systems to limit premature failure. [1, 2]
How to Make a CVT Last:
Unlike traditional automatics that can go 100,000+ miles on factory fluid, belt-driven CVTs require strict fluid maintenance. Experts recommend getting a CVT fluid drain-and-fill every 30,000 to 50,000 miles to prevent the internal belt from slipping and to keep the bearings lubricated. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
 
i am a big fan ot the lease return vehicles. have bought 2 (mazda suv, and tacoma), and both had very low miles. the dealers want them to go, and if all goes well, they can negotiate. the tacoma dealer offered another 12 months bumper to bumper warranty, which was valuable to me - as i was buying used .
 
Evan B said:
Much like these "off road machines" modified and sold at the dealer down the street from me (I get to drive by this place daily)
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Dude, all about flexin’, articlatin’ with rubber band tires… hope they don’t scratch those finishes. But hey, to each their own. All seriousness, I’m out on fishing trip and I test drove 3 Super Duty’s yesterday… probably do a Carli kit on it if I pull the trigger.
 
This thread appears to be a prime example of "paralysis by analysis."
 
Thanks for the opinions all. Like I stated earlier, I've got a long runway here.

I'm failing to see any "paralysis", just a little analysis. But thanks for your contribution @albula, that was very insightful.
 
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