How did you end up in your career?

Not the answer the OP is looking for but his post to me is someone who is searching. I think short term goals are pretty easy like ski season is coming and I want to ski in Utah this year. Long term I don't want to work at all and want to have a comfortable retirement with a good body so I can fish exotic locations. The middle goals are a lot more fuzzy and life gets in the way.

I'm a believer in, "work to live vs. live to work" , so... "find a job you love and you will never work another day in your life" is BS to me. I also don't believe in saving like your mom told you. Mom was wrong but her heart was in the right place. I believe in investing. Make your money work 24hrs. a day. If you don't do that it makes it a lot harder to have an easy retirement or an early retirement. A $5 daily starbucks coffee invested into the S&P 500 for a 30 year working career will net you somewhere near $250K at the end of 30 years. That's a very attainable goal for just about anyone. I don't think a job should be one's identity. Working for Amazon, or the NPS, or as an engineer or whatever doesn't matter. When someone asks "what do you do for work?" The answer really should be, "I work toward my retirement."
 
Not the answer the OP is looking for but his post to me is someone who is searching. I think short term goals are pretty easy like ski season is coming and I want to ski in Utah this year. Long term I don't want to work at all and want to have a comfortable retirement with a good body so I can fish exotic locations. The middle goals are a lot more fuzzy and life gets in the way.

I'm a believer in, "work to live vs. live to work" , so... "find a job you love and you will never work another day in your life" is BS to me. I also don't believe in saving like your mom told you. Mom was wrong but her heart was in the right place. I believe in investing. Make your money work 24hrs. a day. If you don't do that it makes it a lot harder to have an easy retirement or an early retirement. A $5 daily starbucks coffee invested into the S&P 500 for a 30 year working career will net you somewhere near $250K at the end of 30 years. That's a very attainable goal for just about anyone. I don't think a job should be one's identity. Working for Amazon, or the NPS, or as an engineer or whatever doesn't matter. When someone asks "what do you do for work?" The answer really should be, "I work toward my retirement."
You couldn’t be more right. Maximizing your investments and minimizing your debt is the key to a comfortable retirement. Waiting (or working) until you draw your SS if eligible to the max age also pays big dividends. IRAs, 401Ks, $$ savings all add up overtime and negate the need to incur long term debt. Pay 100% of your card debt every month and you’ll be surprised how soon your account balances grow.
 
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I was in 10th grade and it was during Chemistry class. The teacher asked each student to say what they planned to do for a "career." The responses ran the gamut from doctor, lawyer, to electrician and plumber. When it was my turn I said I was planning to go to college and become a chemist. I was in no way trying to get on the good side of the teacher that was my real plan. As the bell rang and class was dismissed the teacher said "hey Steve, let me talk to you a second,". I was wondering what was up.

So she proceeds to ask me if I was really planning to go to college and major in chemistry to which I responded yes I really like chemistry and have been looking at handful of schools already. Her response blew me away.

"You should look at becoming a chemical engineer then. They get to do plenty of "chemistry" but make a hell of a lot more money." Took her to heart and that's what I did. 36+ years as a chem eng in the nuclear industry. And yes engineers make more than chemists!
 
I was once described as a renaissance man, where whatever I tried my hand at - I became proficient at.

My main dream for 30 years was to play soccer professionally. I was a student of the game and I tried my hand at all positions, including goalie. My favorite positions over that time, were left wing early in my playing days (dominant foot is right, but I taught myself to develop the left…which lead to more playing time of as my teammates are dominant righties as well); attacking mid-field mid-playing days; and finally as a striker later in my playing days. I played (indoor and outdoor nonstop, with a couple of semi-pro tryouts); coached youth and high school; and referee a couple of years over that 30 years. I hung up the boots at the age of 40.

I attended some college…completing sophomore year.

I have worked in custodial, food and beverage, as a librarian, fence builder, did some ranchin’, manufacturing, warehousing, and retail sales.

The last 26 years has been split almost evenly between a multi-line manufacturers’ rep and a B2B Account Manager. These years have been the most rewarding. They have allowed to work from home and not be bound to a time clock… trading time for money.

About another three years and I will hang up the professional boots. I am looking forward to relaxin’ a bit more, as I have been working since the age of 12.

All these jobs I look at as being stepping stones to the next job; all had something in common or relatable to the next.

On a side note: I was always willing to “sweep the floors”…and I never met a broom that didn’t fit my hands. 😉
 
From about 6th grade through high school I spent more time fishing, than studying.

During my senior year in high school I was on a fishing trip with my dad at Buoy 10. On that trip we saw the Coast Guard out waiting to get the inevitable distress call. While they were waiting for a call they were fishing.
My dad said- you like fish and fishing, you should look into that (joining the USCG).
I did, and spent four great years in the Coast Guard.

While in the Coast Guard I met a local area state fish biologist and ended volunteering with him.
I was telling my dad about volunteering with the biologist. My dad said- you know, you like fish and fishing, you should look into that after you get out of the Coast Guard.
I did, and now I’m going on 26 years with a F&W agency. I’ve had the chance to do some amazing things for work and consider myself incredibly lucky.
Who says fishing too much as a kid doesn’t pay off😁.
 
In high school I wanted to be an art teacher. But by my senior year that had faded and I quit before graduation. I went to work, roofing. At 125 soaking wet, I was the grunt. When snow started to fall, I quit and moved to Log Island. I got an apprenticeship in a family machine shop doing sheet metal. After a while I was running two 20 stage computer controlled turret punch presses. They used punched paper readers, old school. From there I was hired as an inspector at Gull Airborne Instruments. They made analog instruments at the time. They sent me to three months of training in Quality Assurance and Planning. Thank goodness I recalled my HS math. I was able to do statistical analysis, standard deviation, etc. After a while there a friend told me about an inspection job at Fairchild Republic. They were building the A10. Once on board they asked me to transfer to the Boeing program. They built all the flight control surfaces for the 747. Fairchild had a few configuration issues on two ship sets and sent a team to Everett to rectify it. I was the team inspector. While I was there I met with management about getting on with them and relocating. Since I knew their drawings, processes, and specifications they said yes. Two months later I was a new Washingtonian. My career there would take me from hourly to technical to management. Along the way I had many mentors that showed me the ropes, I soaked up up every bit. I stayed for 38 years, it provided a wonderful lifestyle, and pension. I gave my best and was rewarded by the company. But you couldn’t pay me enough to go back when they called two years later. I was done…freedom.
 
I'm a civil engineer. I was good at math, I liked creative building (e.g. legos), and engineering pays relatively well, so when I was in HS looking at college I narrowed my interest down to engineering. When I was a senior in HS, I met an Army engineer officer who told me he got his college paid for through ROTC. I joined Air Force ROTC my freshman year, earned a full ride, and commissioned as an civil engineer officer in the Air Force. I did 4 years on Active Duty on the east coast and then punched out. I worked a combination of contract and federal jobs in Virginia, Texas, and Hawaii before moving home to Washington about 10 years ago. I worked as a project manager for a construction company for federal clients on some really awesome fish passage projects around the northwest and Alaska...the intersection of my fishing interests with work made these the best projects was ever involved in. I have been working full-time for the National Guard the last 5 years. I have been through some seasons where it was hard to find a good work/life balance, but I've really been prioritizing that the last year and getting out on the water.
 
Went into my father's profession of home construction. Also followed him into his hobby of fishing. :) I've worked in CO, TX, and both Washingtons. I did however spend about 4 years in a machine shop as a mechanic's apprentice. The pay sucked in the shop as did the union. The hat my daughter bought me for my birthday says it all. "I fix things and I know stuff."
 
I wanted to be a veterinarian. I got wait listed 2x, but never got in. I took a job with a Federal Law Enforcement Agency as a Forensic Chemist doing Arson and Explosive analysis. After 3 years I got bored working in the lab and transitioned out to become an agent. I spent 28 years on the job and had a great career. The work took me all over the world and I was able to fish on all continents except Antarctica.

No one in my family was ever in law enforcement and I was clearly an "outlier" with my kin.
 
I am extremely fortunate to have come directly out of college making good money, even if it is work I do not necessarily love or feel passionate about. I ended up struggling to make connections in the Marine Bio world, I would argue largely due some of my own bad choices. For now I am sticking with the job but I doubt I will be for long. It's very much not a 9-5 industry, and while I am working 40-50 hours a week depending on what's going on waking up at 4 everyday, and coming home exhausted has taken its toll. I don't know if there needs to be a mentality shift in me that will find a way to make time for joy while working, or if I truly am in the wrong job. I am curious about the stories of folks here, and how they ended up choosing a career for themselves.

You put your time in during your 20s, you work hard, impress the people around your with competence. Sounds like you are already doing that. Keep an eye on adjacent fields and roles that seem a little weird though well managed, contrast them with the poorly managed and learn to spot tells for the latter.

Sometimes in our 30s and 40s we miss the chance to say yes to something that turns out really good. Saying no is really easy, it's the yes to weird stuff that's hard.

Things that help?...well managed...good colleagues...a tendency towards more autonomy over time...specifically becoming a key part of why the role you do is well managed and Who your colleagues are. A significant other that's sane and rational. Always an eye on the competence, specifically the pivots you need to stay relevant.

Get used to imposter syndrome, if you never have it you may not be challenging yourself, befriend it, that's the dude advising you to double check what you did and why, that's the same guy telling you how to better angle the next cast, retrieve rate, fly selection etc that's the guy that drives improvement and opportunity. That dude is your friend.

Gsmolt basically says the same thing in fewer words....

I won't bore you with the twists and turns of my "job portfolio" over the years, but there has been one constant since I was 16...
In every job, I went out of my way to continue to learn new skills and meet new people, then leveraged those results for personal gain at the next job every single step of the way. I haven't loved every job I've had, but I've been goddamn good at them....
 
My path involved a bit of bouncing around, beginning with salmon hatchery management (college), fisheries research, biotech, and then microbiology research and teaching. The path was not linear. I have been doing what I am doing for a bunch of years now, and I remain happy in the biz.

There were three or four major forks in my career road, I thought about each of them carefully and then never looked back.

I believe hard work pays off, though sometimes the results are not direct. I always tried to surround myself with people better/smarter than me, and I worked to make people around me as good as they could be. Most people remember those things later and will respect you for it.
 
“I always tried to surround myself with people better/smarter than me, and I worked to make people around me as good as they could be. Most people remember those things later and will respect you for it.”

Absolutely true, an old man told me something very similar early in my working life and I followed it as much as possible.
 
Never had to study or work hard in high school. Went to college and was completely unprepared. Was asked to leave after it became clear my BAC was higher than my GPA! Made pizzas for a while as a dead-end job and then enlisted in the Navy. Passed the ASVAB with flying colors and went into the nuclear program and was trained as a submarine electrician. Did well in that training and got asked to stick around and teach for two years which I did. Then sent to sea out of Groton, CT on a fast attack submarine for 5 years. Spent 2 of those years up in Kittery, ME taking the submarine through a refueling overhaul and microprocessor I&C upgrade. Got off the boat and went to the prototype facility in Charleston, SC as an instructor. Qualified as Engineering Officer of the Watch as an enlisted guy and started training the officers coming through the program. Happened to be on watch one day when ADM Bowman (then the head of the Navy Nuclear Propulsion Program) came through to watch a set of drills being run on me and the watchteam. At the conclusion of that, the ADM asked me to come to work for him at Naval Reactors (NAVSEA 08). Applied, interviewed, and went to work, still down in Charleston, but now as part of the "oversight" organization for the navy nuclear program. Applied for an officer program, the ADM signed the endorsement, and next thing I knew I was commissioned as an Ensign in the Navy working for ADM Bowman. Transferred back up to the shipyard in Kittery doing overhaul and repair work with a focus on special nuclear projects such as reactor coolant pump replacements and integrated testing of the new systems....did that for 10 years. Got to travel around to different Navy facilities doing nuclear work as part of audit teams and expand my horizons past the east coast. Got divorced, then transferred down to Norfolk Naval Shipyard as the XO for the Naval Reactors field office there, working submarines and aircraft carrier overhaul and maintenance. Retired 2013 after 26 years....no longer tied to a blackberry or cell phone 24/7!
Interviewed with commercial nuclear operators, and ended up out west here at Energy Northwest. Been working commercial nuke ever since. Now the Operations Department Program Manager mentoring operators in day to day plant operations. Looking at retirement soon.
Gotta say, the Navy was a great experience and was very good to me. Great people, always learning something, and lots of camaraderie. Same in commercial nuke. Can honestly say, I've enjoyed going to work every day. Enjoy the social interaction, the problem solving, people managing, and of course the paycheck!
 
I was supposed to be an engineer or architect. I started community college in the fall of 1967 intending to major in civil engineering. I lasted only long enough to realize I didn't want to go there. In May of 1968 a classmate and friend asked if I wanted to go with him to the UW to hear Bobby Kennedy speak. I had been to Seattle maybe 2 or 3 times in my life. The UW campus made such an impression on me, especially Suzzalo library, that and Kennedy's speech transformed my life. I decided that day to transfer to UW, though I had zero idea how to go about it. I had zero counseling in high school. I only knew that I was expected to go to college, yet had no real idea how to go about it. A new counselor at my old high school helped me through the obstacles, and in fall 1968 I began at UW. Problem is, I had no idea what I wanted to do. Took a look at architecture - naw. Sociology? Naw. Maybe philosopy - wow, that's interesting, but what does a philosopher do for a job? Then came Earth Day 1970, and I realized I wanted to major in something related to the environment. There was this new major of Environmental Inter-disciplinary studies, but that was for students who really had their heads screwed on straight, and that was not me. OK, what about forestry? Well, my step-father ran a small gypo logging outfit for a while, and I bucked logs on the landing for a couple summers (illegally, I wasn't 16, no caulk boots, no hard hat), enough to know I didn't want to do that for a lifetime. So how about the college of fisheries? Well I liked to go trout fishing and had even caught a bass or two in my youth. So on that simple illogical analysis I set my career course. Neither school nor career was anything like I might have envisioned, but I never regretted a minute of it. Harvest management of fish was a good use for math and statistics. Hatcheries, my engineering and carpentry experience came in handy. And habitat management - environmental use and protection - used everything I knew and came to know about everything. I knew I was on the right career track, although 3/4 of the fisheries graduates during my years went on to work in other fields. I didn't know there was a surplus of fisheries biologists, and I never bothered to look for work outside fisheries. I never learned how to look for a job, either, which is generally not a good thing. I just stumbled into jobs here and there and took advantage of those opportunities to learn more. And eventually I got asked to come work at other places, and when it looked like an attractive thing to do, I did.
 
In an ideal world we all would know the job we love, find the job we love and do the job we love until early retirement bliss without killing said love in the process. Not unheard of but also not reality for the majority of those in the workforce. Assuming you don’t find yourself in that perfect situation, my suggestion would be to find the right situation and take it upon yourself to own your own path to success and happiness.

A series of events drove me to Montana from the east coast for college. I made that decision based off my love of fishing and the outdoors, eschewing less ideal college choices that would have been based off athletic opportunities. That would have been the choice I made had more ideal opportunities not dried up due to injury. Best decision of my life. I made another impulsive decision and studied Anthropology and doubled down and got a Masters in Anthropology with an emphasis in Forensic Anthropology (because there is a ton of demand for them :)). Finished grad school in my mid twenties, I did some archaeological work for a Cultural Resource Management firm and decided I needed to make a more pragmatic decision and find a job that would that allow me to pay off student loan debt, provide benefits and save for my future.

The field I chose was not anywhere in my wheelhouse practically speaking. It was corporate and significantly different than the career path I expected to take. It was in the analytical job family though and allowed me to do what I really enjoyed in work; solving problems. I love challenges, “how can we get this done” is music to my ears. Using data in an applied manner to find a solution is what I enjoy doing. I found out early that I don’t even care what the problem is for the most part. In essence, I discovered the type of work I liked to do and put an emphasis on that over finding work in the field I loved. That decision impacted my life in a very positive way. A handful of years into my tenure I took on a new set of solutions to solve for - people. Managing is not for everyone but I find figuring out ways to develop and engage different types of personalities as interesting as most other types of issues I have been asked to work on in my career. Building high performing teams and developing talent successfully, requires a lot energy and can be frustrating at times. It’s also really rewarding when it all comes together though. It’s not for everyone but I really enjoy it.

IMO, engagement is the key to success in whatever career path you take. Even if it’s not your preferred field. Do everything in your power to stay engaged, and the best way to stay engaged is to find the type of work you enjoy. Even if it’s not in your preferred field. Find a role where you are intellectually stimulated or challenged. When I find myself not engaged, it’s time for a new project or role.

Also do what you can to find the right employer. I tend to work a lot. 50+ hours a week or more depending on what’s going on. That said, my company provides flexibility. Start time, end time, flex schedules. I can take half day Friday’s every week or full Fridays every other if I’ve worked the hours. That flexibility keeps me from burning out (and allows me to fish a good amount!).The flexibility allows me to get the work life balance I need as an individual. 20 years into my career I still work as hard as ever but I play a big part in setting the terms on how and when which keeps my burn-out risk low. I lucked out in finding a company that allows for that kind of flexibility and also provides a very respectable pay and benefits package. That said, if I was forced to make a choice, I’d prioritize flexibility and fit over pay to the extent it makes sense to you. I had a version of this decision to make early on my career when I moved on from Archaeology. Pay was important to me at that time when looking ahead to my future. Since then, I’ve had opportunities to chase roles that would have higher pay potential and chose not too. I know not everyone can make that choice based on their own situation at any given moment.

That’s my advice. Discover and seek out the type of work you enjoy doing even if it’s not the field you intended. If you’re not engaged in your job, find a project or role that gets you back there. Staying engaged is critical to happiness and success career wise IMO. Finally, search out the right fit company wise. It can make all the difference. Don’t chase money or titles to a shitty company fit wise.

Would I have been “happier” if I had followed the career path I intended and built a career in archaeology? Maybe? Depends on the route I took. Has my current career been ideal? No, I play the part in the corporate world it’s not always easy. I have worked hard to find the kind of work I enjoy in that world though, and it’s led to an enjoyable career. It also has put both my wife and I in a position to travel and retire early comfortably if we choose. That would not be the case if I stuck with archaeology. Not a benefit I take lightly considering we came out of college with a small mortgage in student loan debt.
 
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My plan was to major in business. Due to circumstances, I failed to get into the school of business. Some of those circumstances were my own doings. Some weren’t.
I met an advisor who told me to just get a degree and don’t waste the credits I’d already earned. She also asked me which courses I enjoyed and basically said whatever career path you choose, you are going to get training.
I ended up getting a sociology degree. After graduating I worked some unfulfilling manual labor jobs that didn’t pay great.
I needed a change and so I applied for a sales job. That lead to positions in three different companies all in the same industry before I finally settled in. I worked for big companies and a smaller family owned company. Both had their positives and negatives. The negatives being corporate bs to nepotism….
I will admit that after doing the same thing for 40+ years, the shine wears off and things got a bit monotonous at the end. Demanding customers, increasing quotas etc had me ready to hang things up, which I did this year. The last few years were a grind, but the goal line was in sight so I just kept my head down and powered through. I wasn’t going to change careers or positions at my age.
Getting a nice big paycheck after a good month of sales was rewarding plus the other perks of the sales game. Don’t get me wrong, there we some bleak periods like the 2008 financial crisis and Covid. Nobody was buying much of anything.
In the end, I didn’t love my job and certainly don’t miss it. It did set me up well for a comfortable retirement which was my main goal during my working career.
Just one other piece of advice. Regardless of how much you are making, keep investing, max out your 401k etc. You may need to sacrifice some things in order to do so, but with the way things are headed much of your retirement will be dependent on yourself. I know this isn’t easy in today expensive environment for young people, but just do it. You’ll be happy you did.
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Congrats, we probably retired close to the same day. Different roles but much of my corporate experience would read like yours, with all the same motivation to get out early and intact.
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Great advice above, definitely take the company match on 401. I would add, max your Roth every year w/o exception. For anyone (at any age) not doing both, set them up now now now.
 
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Great thread

I was all in on chasing the baseball dream out of HS, went to college to play but had a very strange 4 years with 3 colleges in the era that transfering and playing took an act of congress to make happen. Ended up with a degree in business management from Whitworth in Spokane and after a stint in Australia playing baseball, I hung up the cleats and went to work selling advertising

I spent 19 years at Clear Channel/iHeart Media. The same job that my father did, it was a full commission gig that I was very good at and I loved my customers, but the soul fell out of it. When I started, there was something like 65 people working for the 6 radio stations I worked for in Spokane, and when I left it was down to 12. The lesson to me was that if you can sell, you'll never be replaced. I watched dozens of my friends get RIFF'd by a company that overpaid to own the giant megatron media company and cut every fucking corner it could. I stayed a lot longer than I should have, as we were a 1 income household and my wonderful wife stayed home to take care of the kids till they were into grade school and beyond. When she went back to work in the pharma rep industry, I started to think it was time for a change

Echoing what our boy Heironymus says, invest in your relationships. Mid career I started to dive into the conservation world, starting with the Wild Steelhead Coalition and then further with Backcountry Hunters and Anglers. The people I purposely put myself around in that arena gave me a path to my new career as the corporate partnerships coordinator with BHA. It's a dream job, I donated every neck tie I owned and my remaining suits have a lovely layer of dust on them. I gave up a lot of money in commissions, but my quality of life is light years ahead of where I was slanging 30s and 60s in the radio/digital ad biz. The new-ish gig is now 4 years going and all the skills I aquired in ad sales has me right where I need to be

Another lesson I've learned...lean in early in your work and build a career. I sold ads during the downturn in the mid 2000s and didnt know enough that the sky was falling. I just put my head down and figured it out.

Also, double lesson. Invest early and keep going. Thankful to have had the advice to do so and started when I was 22. Maybe I can retire with the wife when we can enjoy a long ass retirement
 
I started working in the fishing industry in my early 20's. Tried college for a minute during that time but bailed after my apartment burned down and my girlfriend got pregnant (apparently sex can lead to children!!!) Moved back down to SW Washington to be a responsible parent and started a fly fishing company with a former coworker. Bought the company after helping build it for over 20 years. Now I'm shackled with debt and anxiety and work way more than I ever wanted to, but I get to go on cool trips once a year.
 
...Echoing what our boy Heironymus says, invest in your relationships.
Thanks, mang. That's pretty much it in a nutshell - it's great to know stuff, but most of the time (and especially before you are 40ish) it's better to know people, and even better to know the right people. As a neurodivergent sort of fella, it was (and still is) occasionally painful for me personally to wade into the networking around "JobLife" but the rolodex I developed, nurtured, and continue to grow was/is worth a few socially awkward moments.
I started working in the fishing industry in my early 20's, and now I'm a fuckin' LEGEND
Fixed it for ya, mang. Good to see you here!


One last piece of advice which I forgot to drop in my first reply, and this came from my late father as I was preparing to sign on to a business deal at 23 years of age that would pretty much define my life/career for the next 20+ years...

"Say Yes until you can afford to say No".

Peace, y'all
 
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