Got Yelled At

Most Denny's have been closed in Seattle area. Just sayin '
 
I don't want to go that deep into the weeds but the constitution doesn't contain an exhaustive list of our rights.. it contains a list of rights that the government is absolutely forbidden to touch.
The founding fathers would have considered fishing and hunting rights so absurdly obvious that they couldn't invision anything thinking otherwise. Not that they thought it was an issue but if asked they would have looked startled and answer " what an absurd question of course you can feed your families by hunting and fishing"
Of course the founding fathers were boycotting Albertsons, and didn't have a clue about the plains, the rockies, or the Pacific coast, let alone the acres and acres of cul de sacs filled with people and automobiles. They were all dead when people had messed things up enough that the Government felt the need to step in. I'm glad they did, because I enjoy having animals to hunt and fish for.
 
In 1776 the first federal game law declared a closed season on deer in all the colonies except Georgia.
 
In 1776 the first federal game law declared a closed season on deer in all the colonies except Georgia.
Indeed...most people don't know that whitetail deer were once almost eradicated due to overhunting and a complete lack of hunting regulation....and even where regulations were beginning to be implemented no enforcement mechanism was actually created.
 
Indeed...most people don't know that whitetail deer were once almost eradicated due to overhunting and a complete lack of hunting regulation....and even where regulations were beginning to be implemented no enforcement mechanism was actually created.

And some people just plain don't know anything, yet claim to be experts. It's a sad state of affairs, these public displays of outright ignorance, but yet they continue.
 
In 1776 the first federal game law declared a closed season on deer in all the colonies except Georgia.

Yeah, but those weren't the "good people" that did that, though I would like to know, who decides who the "good people" are, I want to send in an application so I can join the club.

cheers
 
Yeah, but those weren't the "good people" that did that, though I would like to know, who decides who the "good people" are, I want to send in an application so I can join the club.

cheers
Sometimes it takes the perspective of history to determine who the 'good people' were.

Graveyards are absolutely chock full of the remains of people who once held beliefs and conducted themselves in a manner we now find reprehensible.
 
Graveyards are absolutely chock full of the remains of people
This is the most important part of that sentence.

One of my regular road bike rides takes me through the city cemetery. I often think about the people there as I ride by their gravestones. What lives did they live? What would they have gone back and changed if they could? Would all the petty arguments and pissing matches be as important if we all truly deeply understood that the clock was ticking?

Helps me keep things in perspective.
 
This is the most important part of that sentence.

One of my regular road bike rides takes me through the city cemetery. I often think about the people there as I ride by their gravestones. What lives did they live? What would they have gone back and changed if they could? Would all the petty arguments and pissing matches be as important if we all truly deeply understood that the clock was ticking?

Helps me keep things in perspective.
I do the same....

And I wonder if the dead would have lived different lives if they had realized that it's quite possible that one existence...a brief moment in time... is all we will ever have.

A prominent ethicist, after a long and distinguished career, was complimented regarding his contribution to mankind's ethical improvement.

He replied that he had very little to do with it....and gave far more credit to the fact that those who held truly horrible and destructive beliefs were no longer around to act upon them.

I just hope we're making at least baby steps in the direction of a sustainable and equitable existence.
 
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Of course the founding fathers were boycotting Albertsons, and didn't have a clue about the plains, the rockies, or the Pacific coast, let alone the acres and acres of cul de sacs filled with people and automobiles. They were all dead when people had messed things up enough that the Government felt the need to step in. I'm glad they did, because I enjoy having animals to hunt and fish for.
Do we have animals to fish and hunt? Seems to me that the more government steps in and "helps" the slimmer those resources become.
 
Do we have animals to fish and hunt? Seems to me that the more government steps in and "helps" the slimmer those resources become.

Really, read about gray wolves, albatrosses, bald eagles, buffalo/bison and any number of threatened species that have made great comebacks because of governmental regulation. It has also been the government that has tried to save any number of lakes for native species that have been destroyed by folks dumping gold fish or other highly destructive invasive species. It was governmental interdiction that led to the clean-up and restoration of the Great Lakes, clean-up of the air/decrease of the acid rain that destroyed millions of acres of forest and killed hundreds/thousands of lakes and streams throughout the northeast. Those lakes and streams are now full of fish to fish and rejuvenated forests full of game to hunt.

It is sometimes worth while to look around, and look back and acknowledge the good that has been done for us all. The government is generally populated by hard working, well meaning individuals trying to do a job the best they can.

Full disclosure - I am not a government worker and have no tie whatsoever to the current or any past government.

Cheers
 
Really, read about gray wolves, albatrosses, bald eagles, buffalo/bison and any number of threatened species that have made great comebacks because of governmental regulation. It has also been the government that has tried to save any number of lakes for native species that have been destroyed by folks dumping gold fish or other highly destructive invasive species. It was governmental interdiction that led to the clean-up and restoration of the Great Lakes, clean-up of the air/decrease of the acid rain that destroyed millions of acres of forest and killed hundreds/thousands of lakes and streams throughout the northeast. Those lakes and streams are now full of fish to fish and rejuvenated forests full of game to hunt.

It is sometimes worth while to look around, and look back and acknowledge the good that has been done for us all. The government is generally populated by hard working, well meaning individuals trying to do a job the best they can.

Full disclosure - I am not a government worker and have no tie whatsoever to the current or any past government.

Cheers

Good to see you Canuck :)
 
Really, read about gray wolves, albatrosses, bald eagles, buffalo/bison and any number of threatened species that have made great comebacks because of governmental regulation. It has also been the government that has tried to save any number of lakes for native species that have been destroyed by folks dumping gold fish or other highly destructive invasive species. It was governmental interdiction that led to the clean-up and restoration of the Great Lakes, clean-up of the air/decrease of the acid rain that destroyed millions of acres of forest and killed hundreds/thousands of lakes and streams throughout the northeast. Those lakes and streams are now full of fish to fish and rejuvenated forests full of game to hunt.

It is sometimes worth while to look around, and look back and acknowledge the good that has been done for us all. The government is generally populated by hard working, well meaning individuals trying to do a job the best they can.

Full disclosure - I am not a government worker and have no tie whatsoever to the current or any past government.

Cheers
You are tugging on Rob's superpower.
 
The ones I know are...
Most people try and do a good job at what they do, no matter where they work.
Sure... some are less motivated than others, but that's true in every profession, every trade, every business.
To think or say all government employees are lazy and don't care is simply a dumbfuck, dildo type statement, made by morons...of which of course there are plenty.
 
The ones I know are...
Most people try and do a good job at what they do, no matter where they work.
Sure... some are less motivated than others, but that's true in every profession, every trade, every business.
To think or say all government employees are lazy and don't care is simply a dumbfuck, dildo type statement, made by morons...of which of course there are plenty.
Many of whom work for the government!

Sorry, couldnt help myself 🤣🤣🤣
 
Is it though?

I don't know personally anyone who works as a US Government or State government civil servant, but I have had interactions with many, from Driver's license to US Social Security, to Medicare, USICS, etc. I have not once run into one who was rude and did not do their utmost to help me with what I needed. Now that is just me, but that is my experience, and of course it goes with my earlier statement that you usually get back what you project, honesty, decency and respect, that is what you will usually get back.

cheers
 
In 1776 the first federal game law declared a closed season on deer in all the colonies except Georgia.
Uhm, point of clarification, please. What federal government existed in 1776 to make such a declaration? In July 1776 a declaration established 13 independent (former) colonies. Were the Articles of Confederation adopted that same year? (Madly checking my references and finding I don't have one covering this.) I'm not sure there was such a thing as a "Federal" law prior to the Constitution being adopted in 1789. The 13 independent states were pretty free wheeling before the Constitution, which kinda' precipitated the writing and adoption of the Constitution. Help me out here, but please don't make me re-read the Federalist Papers.
 
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