NFR F-150 owners ?

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Wife has convinced me it's time to move onto a rig with things like predictive cruise, collision auto-braking, lane swerve, etc, so starting to look for a later model new rig with fairly low miles. Always been a Chevy guy, however, really like the lines on the F-150 and the 3.5 Ecoboost seems like quite the motor.
For F-150 owners, feedback on your likes and dislikes with the newer year models?
 
I have a 2017 3.5 ecoboost F150 I bought in 2022 with 21,000 miles on it. Now have 63k on it. I only pull the Clack around with it and use it as a daily driver for my real estate biz. It’s comfy, looks good, bet I could pull a small bumper pull no worries, has alot of giddyup when needed. I don’t like Fords electronics, or the auto shut-off of the engine at stop signs. Otherwise, no complaints so far.
 
Had a 2017 Raptor and loved it, replaced it with an identical 2023 and it’s even better. Except at the moment it’s having a network issue impacting the ProPower 6500w inverter that the dealer is struggling to fix under warranty.

The adaptive cruise and lane keeping is fantastic nowadays. My cruise will handle stop and go traffic. It’s so much more relaxing. I’ve done multiple 18 hour drives without getting fatigued.

Love love love the interior cab comforts on F150s.

The new smart headlights are fantastic. Auto dim/bright is one thing, but it also automatically adjusts for level when I hitch up the boat, and they steer left and right when turning. And when they’re on bright they light up the world.
 
One of my fishing buddies has a late model F-150 that he factory ordered I believe. It took him months to figure out the electronic shit that sometimes just turned the truck off or did unpredictable things. He has made peace with it after a couple of years but really stressed with it at first. There are simply too many electronic systems on the truck that have nothing to do with driving and are a distraction. The radar cruise control however is a great improvement for long distance driving, it spares the aggravation of having to speed up and slow down with the pace of the traffic. The lane change warning is useful also but the lane correction stuff is just maddening but fortunately can be turned off. Mixed results with the auto braking, I prefer to just pay attention. A lot of this stuff seems to have been developed for people that are driving while sleepy, using a cell phone, putting on make-up, eating a burger or grab assing a member of the opposite sex.

There is a lot more I dislike about the new trucks than I like. The average transaction price of over $60k for starters. I hate that a 2 door truck with a full sized bed is not even offered in some makes. Trucks with lots of doors and a tiny bed means they are no longer as useful but cost more to do less. Insurance costs are way high now that trucks are being sold as luxury vehicles instead of utility units. They are much too big for what they do and can never be very efficient with their large frontal area and huge weight. The Chicken Tax is killing us as we have been forced into these gargantuan monsters while the rest of the world gets reasonable sized rigs with powerful and economical diesels that come with modest prices. Politics in action.:mad:
 
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Dave Bohupowah's main distributer Clint Ruddell is known to prefer the 150 when doing freeway commutes to delivery sites over 4 hours away. Due to the features.
 
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Not an f-150 but I have a 2020 escape and for the record.. I absolutely hate the anti collision and the lane departure features.
 
I agree with iveofione.

Less gadgets and actually pay attention to what you are doing.
If ya need all the assistance just to stay between the lines and not up another cars tailpipe....maybe it's time to give up your license and have someone else drive you around.

Food for thought.
 
When will they make a gadget to turn your cellphone off if you touch it while the vehicle is in motion?
I looked at the f150 a couple days ago, jam packed with crap I don't need to get the options I want. Give me a powerful and efficient motor and transmission, a music maker with an on/off button and a volume knob, A/C, heat, and because I'm getting old and soft heated seats and mirrors.
I want to drive it myself thanks.
 
IMG_9641.jpegHere’s my fleet, 16 F150 and 23 Raptor. F150 is dazzled up quite a bit. It has been pretty good but needed new exhaust manifolds(bad design) and a new throttle body at about 100k, but its great a great driving rig with the perfect amount of tech my likes. After 17 they seemed to have addressed the warping manifolds in the gen 2 3.5 EB. The 23 Raptor has lane assist, adaptive, collision avoidance, but I turned all of those defaults off in the vehicle settings, because I’m not a fan of the loss of situational awareness. That being said, I will turn on lane assist occasionally on a late night drive home from Seatac, but it behaves like a drunken driver. I also worry about the longevity of the more advanced electronics and being able to swap parts out myself. Also… think deep if you want the 3.5 or if you’re open to the V8… both have their pros and cons… there is nothing eco about the 3.5EB…. Its really thirsty if you’re under load. I believe pulling with the 8 would give you better fuel economy, if thats what you want to use it for. Good luck
 
Peyton00 said:
I agree with iveofione.

Less gadgets and actually pay attention to what you are doing.
If ya need all the assistance just to stay between the lines and not up another cars tailpipe....maybe it's time to give up your license and have someone else drive you around.

Food for thought.
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additional food for thought - maybe showing a little more respect for fellow forum members just trying to get some info might help you appear less of an ass
 
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Have the 2020 with the 3.5 turbo and love it. Mostly we got to tow our travel trailer, which it does great. Lots of power and torque in the engine, and the engine develops max torque at lower rpms and maintains it across a broader range compared to the 5l V8. Love the 10-speed transmission for towing. Ours doesn't have lane departure. It does have collision detection, which has alarmed a couple of times when a car crossing in front to turn into the lane next to me passed too close but has never applied the brakes. (You can adjust the sensitivity, BTW.) Get about 22 mpg when just driving round. Not much city driving; we live in the mountains. But it requires 87 octane gas, so it cost a little more to hit the pumps. We've got 40,000 miles, so still pretty new, but great so far.
 
Triggw said:
Have the 2020 with the 3.5 turbo and love it. Mostly we got to tow our travel trailer, which it does great. Lots of power and torque in the engine, and the engine develops max torque at lower rpms and maintains it across a broader range compared to the 5l V8. Love the 10-speed transmission for towing. Ours doesn't have lane departure. It does have collision detection, which has alarmed a couple of times when a car crossing in front to turn into the lane next to me passed too close but has never applied the brakes. (You can adjust the sensitivity, BTW.) Get about 22 mpg when just driving round. Not much city driving; we live in the mountains. But it requires 87 octane gas, so it cost a little more to hit the pumps. We've got 40,000 miles, so still pretty new, but great so far.
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good stuff, appreciate the time you took for the review...first thing I do when getting in my wife's Subaru is turn off lane departure.
Was driving with my son in his Volvo last year, coming back from fishing, he was doing 70 with the cruise control on, suddenly a lifted 4x4 came up hauling ass in the fast lane and suddenly swerved in front of us to take the next exit, and the Volvo instantly emergency braked, avoiding a collision I thought for sure was going to happen.
 
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Brian in OR. said:
If your a GM guy why not the 1500 with the 3L Duramax, great fuel economy lots of torque and all the convenience features you could want... Love mine....

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beauty, and may well end up with another Chevy...as someone who only drives about 3L to 5K a year, however, hard to justify more than the 45K I've allocated for what will be a cash purchase. Someone I swim laps with in the mornings just bought a new one like yours, believe he paid 80K out the door...
 
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beauty, and may well end up with another Chevy...as someone who only drives about 3L to 5K a year, however, hard to justify more than the 45K I've allocated for what will be a cash purchase. Someone I swim laps with in the mornings just bought a new one like yours, believe he paid 80K out the door...
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I looked long and hard before i bought the 24...The used ones 2020-23 were in the high 30 low 40 range... This came in under $60
 
My concern with all these new vehicles and their snazzy features is Maintenance. Figuring out what is wrong/bad, how much it is going to cost to fix it and if/when parts will be available.
 
Rob Allen said:
Not an f-150 but I have a 2020 escape and for the record.. I absolutely hate the anti collision and the lane departure features.
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They are certainly something to get used to . I do like adaptive cruise , if it's just light traffic on the freeways . Being able to just cruise along at a given distance to what's in front of you .
 
New vehicles are a blessing and a curse. Used to be, buying a new car or truck was like buying a stapler, straight forward and functional. Now we buy a new stapler and it comes with an iPhone 16 and wants to take over and control your life. (Not to mention the sticker shock. All that on board technology comes with a price!) A lot of the enhancement features can be adjusted or even turned off. - But why then pay for something, only to turn it off? I don't mind the lane warning feature, but the lane steering assist is downright spooky and unnerving!

I don't have anything to add about the F-150 as we recently bought a new Tacoma and another new Subaru, so much of my leisure reading time is spent with the owner's manuals. It feels like perpetually studying for the graduate school entrance exam. Whether you get a newer Ford or Chevy, you'll probably like it. Just be advised that any newer vehicle comes with a learning curve that you probably weren't counting on.
 
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New vehicles are a blessing and a curse. Used to be, buying a new car or truck was like buying a stapler, straight forward and functional. Now we buy a new stapler and it comes with an iPhone 16 and wants to take over and control your life. (Not to mention the sticker shock. All that on board technology comes with a price!) A lot of the enhancement features can be adjusted or even turned off. - But why then pay for something, only to turn it off? I don't mind the lane warning feature, but the lane steering assist is downright spooky and unnerving!

I don't have anything to add about the F-150 as we recently bought a new Tacoma and another new Subaru, so much of my leisure reading time is spent with the owner's manuals. It feels like perpetually studying for the graduate school entrance exam. Whether you get a newer Ford or Chevy, you'll probably like it. Just be advised that any newer vehicle comes with a learning curve that you probably weren't counting on.
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x2...when we got my wife's 2020 Forester, first year of the current model, took a manual dive to figure out how to turn off the lane centering and that bastard auto-start/stop. Really like the Eyesight features, however, and what is the best AWD system made.
 
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