NFR EV's?
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I think (if I'm remembering correctly) they don't allow deductions for out of state or private if you're not using a tracker. They promoted the tracker by pointing out it will result in an overall less tax for the driver because it will accurately record when you're on private or out of state roads.
Washington drivers would pay 2.5 cents per mile under recommendation
Washington state has relied on gas taxes to pay for roads since 1921.
www.king5.com
The commission will recommend that, starting in 2025, drivers could voluntarily participate in the program, as long as they own cars that get more than 25 miles per gallon.
Electric car owners would qualify for refunds on licensing fees.
In 2027, the recommendation would require all 2028 model vehicles operate under the system.
They could either make payments by having their odometers checked annually, or have their mileage tracked by a GPS device.
Executive Director Reema Griffith said the GPS option raises privacy concerns for some, but she said it could result in lower payments.
"It’s going to allow them to not pay road charges on what we call exempt miles, which would be off our public roadways, in a neighborhood, around a parking lot or on a farm,” said Griffith.
X2.
my last consulting gig (2009) before retiring was a 4 month contract as the acting Director for Facilities for Kaiser Permanente in HI, duties included finalizing the project to install solar panels on the roofs of 8 Kaiser faciities throughout the islands. Worked out of the Moanalua Medical Center, where the hospital and parking garage roofs were later stacked (pics below) with a 460KW solar panel grid.
HI electrical primarily runs off massive diesel generator facilties with a 7 day fuel supply, so if there was ever a prolonged interruption to those fuel tankers showing up in port daily, the hospital could power the critical circuits (hospitals operate on critical, essential and non-essential circuit grids) off the solar grid. As to the rest of the island, good luck during a prolonged power outage, especially in those south shore hi rises.
The fact that the entire island isn't roofed with solar says it all about the muddy politics and deeply influential tourist business 'blockade' in HI.
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#3 is the least 'big brother' and really isn't any different then the gas tax. If you buy gas up in Washington and drive to Oregon for work those cents per gallon you bought in Washington stay there and are not refunded to you.
Dustin Chromers
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Cents? You mean dollars and cents. Highest in the nation son and don't you forget it. We care about climate change the most. Number one!
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Oh yea! I think we're still 56 cents a gallon here in Oregon.. for now.
Dustin Chromers
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It's like you guys don't even care at all down there. Monsters.
The affordability of solar really depends on several factors that I'm not up to date on. For my family, we decided to pay the $12,000 out of pocket over a year that the company we used (Brimma Solar) offered at 0% interest. The incentive program that we got paid us for all of the electricity we used - whether we used it ourselves or sold it to the PUD. We're on year 4 of that 5 year incentive, and it's paid us around $2000/year for the last 4 years. So we're already down to $4,000 left of our out of pocket cost just on those incentives. Our electric bill dropped from around $110-$120/month to $20-$30/month because the solar powers our house during the day and even sells the excess power during the day, then the power we take from the grid is during the evening. So when we're saving $90/month for 48 months now (which isn't exact, but fairly close), we saved $4320 - meaning we're already fully paid off on the panels, and everything from now on is profit. The warranty on the panels is for 20 years, but panels often last much longer than that.
Thanks Matt - I appreciate your response.
Bruce Baker
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What happened with the Tesla pickup you were interested in?I know someone who does, and know someone with a Rivian truck. I could probably pass on any questions.
I'm seriously considering one of these after my experience with the Bolt. Have my name on one, I'll make the decision when it gets closer.
Practicality: 9/10 for day-to-day use. My brain only understands practicality, and this is the best car I've ever had.
Comfort: 7/10 - probably its weakest point. I still think it's fine, just not super plush. Way the hell better than a Tesla, though. Road noise and all that is a minimum, but the seats are a bit on the firm side.
Range: Quite good, especially for the money. In the summer, I can get close to 300mi on a charge, which is farther than my F250 can go on a full tank. If you have a level 2 charger at home (I don't... well I do, I just need to actually get an electrician out so I can use it), you'll be able to do just about anything but a real road trip on a charge. Its main downside, and what makes it less expensive than others, is its top charging speed isn't super fast. I have yet to have this be an issue though since I really just use it around town. But like I said, I've taken a few trips that were 200mi+ round trip and never needed a public charger.
Just kinda over the Tesla thing. Know lots of people with them and everyone with anything but a model 3 seems to have a lot of issues. I hate the interiors on all their cars.. Plus, there's Elon being Elon. As cool as the truck is on paper, I just lost my hype for it.
I'm still getting a Cybertruck. I'll certainly report on how it holds up fishing and camping when it finally gets delivered.
Bruce Baker
Life of the Party
Looks like I was a little bit wrong about the charge by the mile in Washington. I thought it was a done deal. Apparently, it was something that was suggested by the Washington State Transportation Commission. There was a bill introduced, but this morning a reporter for King5 news said it was technically dead, but it could arise from the dead. He also said it was controversial and both republicans and democrats did not like it. The chair of the House Transportation Committee said something must be done (it does not matter what) because the state will not have enough money to pay for road projects that have been planned.
A friend of mine just picked up an F-150 Lightning with just about every option a couple days ago. Ridiculous money, but it looks pretty sweet. Interestingly, the Ford dealership selling it didn't have a clue about how any of it worked, they only had one employee in the entire dealership that had any sort of training on the Lightning.
Had an interesting cony with a friend the other day who is a service manager for a Cummins branch. The branch is trying to write a business plan to allow them to service Cummins branded battery system used primarily in electric buses. For the $ millions required for fire suppression and HazMat mitigation there is no foreseeable ROI. Their only solutions are to apply for government funding and to pass some of the costs on to the consumers.
cdnred
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Bought me a second car a couple of weeks ago a 2010 Smart Highstyle Limited Edition with about 42k miles, not electric but gas powered. I'm getting ~40mi to the gal but it's recommended to use min 92 grade gas for performance. I'm not sold on electrics yet due to range limits and recharge time. I find the Smart to be fun to drive (sporty) with good handling for getting into tight spots. Great for running around the city and doing short errands. I'm 6ft, about 245lbs and have no issues fitting inside or driving it..
Do you drive this on city streets/limited speed limits or..........? Be safe.
cdnred
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I actually bought it for my wife so I don't need to chauffeur her around. She's in the process of getting her first driver's license and I felt this would suit her better for learning and easier for her to park. No more Mr Chauffeur, I know I'm being selfish..
Simple… weight based addition to your your registration fee. How much does your EV weigh?