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I am concerned that communist China who doesn't care about any human rights will become the dominant world power, something to which they absolutely do aspire to. Winning the AI/ technology is vitally important to keeping China at bay. This is more important than any environmental issue because war with China destroys the environment utterly.

That said we can have an excess of electrical energy for data centers and everyone else by pursuing nuclear power. It is clean power generation and with modern technology it would allow us to recycle our "spent" nuclear fuel. I've heard it said that we can get 95% more power out of them in more efficient modern reactors. Also doing this allows us to reuse that fuel down to a half life of 30 years vs 100,000 years. For that reason alone we have to do this from an environmental reasons.
Actually green energy... not relatively green energy. A power plant that actually makes the world a better place by reducing nuclear waste. I do not see how this not a national priority.
I was always anti-nuke, but because I am so concerned about the effects of man-made climate change, I have changed my position. I'd like to see us build these new modular nuclear reactors and install more wind and solar--anything to get us off fossil fuels.
 
Rob, you have said that all things are not either black or white with you and that you understand shades of gray. However, when you post like this, you're sending the message that you don't understand gray at all. Energy sources lie along an environmental gradient ranging from the cleanest to the dirtiest. Solar and wind lean toward clean, and oil and coal are among the dirtiest known sources of energy. Hydroelectricity is somewhere in the middle of these. Nuclear operates in the "clean" zone, but the spent fuel is the dirtiest compound known to human kind.

When you say that a subject is not open to debate, you're sending a different message than you think. You're telling us that you are closed minded and don't know enough about the subject to engage in a conversation about it.

I just described how wind power is absolutely filthy. It may be cleaner that coal true but it is not at all clean. I have already described exactly how.

You can rationalize them being greener that does not make them green.. as for nuclear power i have already explained why burning up all our nuclear waste in modern reactors makes the waste situation infinitely better. 300 years and our nuclear waste is completely harmlesd.
 
I was always anti-nuke, but because I am so concerned about the effects of man-made climate change, I have changed my position. I'd like to see us build these new modular nuclear reactors and install more wind and solar--anything to get us off fossil fuels.
No more wind turbines in my back yard please already have plenty
 
Virtually 100% of utility-scale wind farms in Klickitat County are sited on private agricultural and dryland wheat ranching land leased from local owners.

Sounds like you'd need to talk to the county regarding zoning, or private landowners to express your concerns regarding additional wind farms, or expansion of existing ones.
 
Took the boys out fishing yesterday, oldest wouldnt stop dropping random facts, so I started calling him "data center"
That sounds like the perfect age the Guinness Book Of World Records targets

Friend and I were talking about this the other day, the only Guinness records that seem to have stuck in out 56/57 year old brains were

A- tall guy
B- siamese twins
C- the guy with the really long curved creepy-as-all-get-out fingernails
D- Sears tower as tallest building

the rest of it was just stuff for data center to salt away and put into the algorithm. A place to emphasize often dubious "facts" over wisdom....
 
I was always anti-nuke, but because I am so concerned about the effects of man-made climate change, I have changed my position. I'd like to see us build these new modular nuclear reactors and install more wind and solar--anything to get us off fossil fuels.
x2....SMR's (small modular reactors) are in use in multiple countries with zero issues so far, and the various iterations of 'pocket' nuke generators, literally cargo container sized, should be deployed in the next few years at most.
Why not data centers built as remotely as possible with access to non potable water and run on nuke, which would eliminate both the drain on the public grid and the need for eminent domain over thousands of acres of private land in order to build transmission line.
I've only heard two people ever describe wind power as 'filthy', Rob being the second. At least he didn't do it standing in front of an Arab gifted 747 about to dump thousands of gallons of fuel exhaust on the way to the golf course.
 
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That sounds like the perfect age the Guinness Book Of World Records targets

Friend and I were talking about this the other day, the only Guinness records that seem to have stuck in out 56/57 year old brains were

A- tall guy
B- siamese twins
C- the guy with the really long curved creepy-as-all-get-out fingernails
D- Sears tower as tallest building

the rest of it was just stuff for data center to salt away and put into the algorithm. A place to emphasize often dubious "facts" over wisdom....
Don't forget the guy with like 197 children.
 
Chang and Eng !!!
 
x2....SMR's (small modular reactors) are in use in multiple countries with zero issues so far, and the various iterations of 'pocket' nuke generators, literally cargo container sized, should be deployed in the next few years at most.
Why not data centers built as remotely as possible with access to non potable water and run on nuke, which would eliminate both the drain on the public grid and the need for eminent domain over thousands of acres of private land in order to build transmission line.
I've only heard two people ever describe wind power as 'filthy', Rob being the second. At least he didn't do it standing in front of an Arab gifted 747 about to dump thousands of gallons of fuel exhaust on the way to the golf course.

Bill Gates has invested heavily in a company Terrapower. The nuclear reactors use sodium for cooling rather than water.


Maybe not on the size needed for data centers but a step in the right direction...
 
That sounds like the perfect age the Guinness Book Of World Records targets

Friend and I were talking about this the other day, the only Guinness records that seem to have stuck in out 56/57 year old brains were

A- tall guy
B- siamese twins
C- the guy with the really long curved creepy-as-all-get-out fingernails
D- Sears tower as tallest building

the rest of it was just stuff for data center to salt away and put into the algorithm. A place to emphasize often dubious "facts" over wisdom....
Don't forget about the worlds fattest twins - they road motorcycles!
 
Bill Gates has invested heavily in a company Terrapower. The nuclear reactors use sodium for cooling rather than water.


Maybe not on the size needed for data centers but a step in the right direction...

Well, that's an asinine idea. Everyone knows that sodium increases (blood) pressure. These things are going to blow up like fireworks.

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Don't forget about the worlds fattest twins - they road motorcycles!
I did forget... The McCrary boys, Billy and Benny.... doing my research now.... using the power and resources of AI as the overlords intended, searching outcomes with.... "what happened to..." and this AI stumper: "who are the fattest twins alive that ride motorcycles?" and the obvious follow up "who are the fattest twins to flyfish"

and AI gave me this:


The Fattest Twins to Flyfish — The McGuire Twins​

The McGuire Twins — Billy Leon McCrary and Benny Loyd McCrary — are widely recognized as the world’s heaviest twins, and their story is one of medical mystery, resilience, and fame

Apparently, they not only rode motorbikes, they flyfished!

I seen it on the innnernet so must be true....
 
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Walter Hudson, weighed 1200 pounds

He never used AI, cuz he died.

Jon Brower Minnoch, 1400 pounds
Bainbridge Island Taxi driver...

He also never used AI
 

Better Wind generated energy is on the way and it can't come too soon. Calling it filthy energy is about as logical as "Clean Coal".

Nuclear waste and memories of Chernobyl/3-Mile Island still linger making nuclear innovation tough to sell.
 
Virtually 100% of utility-scale wind farms in Klickitat County are sited on private agricultural and dryland wheat ranching land leased from local owners.

Sounds like you'd need to talk to the county regarding zoning, or private landowners to express your concerns regarding additional wind farms, or expansion of existing ones.
I can confirm that at least 83 of them are on my friends giant cattle and wheat ranch. Yep, 83!! She smiled and said "it sure makes ranching a little easier!" Haha! I bet it does. It obviously put them into a WAY higher tax bracket. The good news is they are good people and give considerable amounts of money to WSU for Agriculture. Do they like the way they look? Nope. But if any of us were in their shoes we'd probably do the same thing.

I hate that they've changed the views. Like the ones in Kittitas County. No more unobstructed views of the Stuart Range from the Thorp area. Now a bunch of white dinosaurs on the skyline. Have to pick our poison I guess.

And yes, they do require a fair amount of lubrication, but oil is not flowing out of them into streams. Or even the soil. I have another friend that is a network engineer on the ones there in Goldendale. I've had discussions about the maintenance required. This dude has no real reason to sugar coat it to me. He says they catch 99.9% of that oil and send it off to be recycled. And much of it ends up being...you guessed it. Used as lubricant again.
Are there accidents? I'm sure there have been. But to say it's just flowing out of them is not accurate. But good if you're phishing. 😁
 
Private citizens using their private land for their economic benefit, yet some would stop them because reasons...I'm thinking of putting a boutique nuclear reactor out behind the garden, but permits are hard to get.

Downright ludicrous, there oughta be a law...
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Plus anyone who gets 90 plus percent of of their power from Columbia River hydro projects shouldn't be able to complain about Salmon and Steelhead runs. In the interest of intellectual consistency and all...
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Last comment on 'filthy' - worked a EPA Superfund project in Silicon Valley in which we had to monitor the air 24/7 for 30 days. The environmental engineering company we hired was a global expert. When all the testing was done and the results summary was presented over 150 carcinogens were identified.
The carcinogen with the highest air concentration and considered by the engineering firm and medical experts to be the most dangerous because the size and starfish shape of the particulate was perfect for being lodged in the lungs? Diesel exhaust.
Want filthy, go stand behind an idling Cummins diesel and take a few deep breaths.
 
I can confirm that at least 83 of them are on my friends giant cattle and wheat ranch. Yep, 83!! She smiled and said "it sure makes ranching a little easier!" Haha! I bet it does. It obviously put them into a WAY higher tax bracket. The good news is they are good people and give considerable amounts of money to WSU for Agriculture. Do they like the way they look? Nope. But if any of us were in their shoes we'd probably do the same thing.

I hate that they've changed the views. Like the ones in Kittitas County. No more unobstructed views of the Stuart Range from the Thorp area. Now a bunch of white dinosaurs on the skyline. Have to pick our poison I guess.

And yes, they do require a fair amount of lubrication, but oil is not flowing out of them into streams. Or even the soil. I have another friend that is a network engineer on the ones there in Goldendale. I've had discussions about the maintenance required. This dude has no real reason to sugar coat it to me. He says they catch 99.9% of that oil and send it off to be recycled. And much of it ends up being...you guessed it. Used as lubricant again.
Are there accidents? I'm sure there have been. But to say it's just flowing out of them is not accurate. But good if you're phishing. 😁

No... have your poison picked for you.
 
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