Coffee talk

New bag day. Ethiopian dry process.
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I’ve been on a South and Central American kick. These Ethiopian beans roast up super quickly. I think I hit a good level pouring them out just at the end of first crack. View attachment 184729
I’ll rest it until Monday.
And how was it?

I just roasted some Ethiopian for daily Aeropress. Some Shitaye coffee, hopefully won’t taste shi-tay.
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My espresso shots have been this Brazilian and really good, really interesting. I usually like the espresso roasts darker, which I did, and I did not care for it in the Aeropress.
My coffee snobbery just deepens.

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I stopped in Boon Boona on the Pike Place overlook walk a couple days ago and got an espresso and was super happy with it, again. It comes with a bubbly mineral water backer, a nice touch. They also had a gal roasting beans in a pan out front and brewing fresh free samples in a jebena (traditional Ethiopian clay coffee pot). That brew was good but it didn’t hold a candle to the espresso, for me.
 
@Matt B my first aeropress cup was excellent. Lots of soft berry flavors, kinda jam-like. I want to try a lighter roast as a batch of cold brew to see if the floral description comes through.

I went pretty deep into Guatemala, Brazil, Honduras, and Colombia beans starting last fall. I found a sweet spot for all of them, sometimes pretty dark. But all were on the big, bold flavors side. It’s fun to switch back to African beans that behave differently during the roasting process and taste like flowers and fruit.
 
So I have a question. Given the price of coffee at the Grocery, is this an economically viable pastime. I'd be starting completely from scratch, ie, no grinder or anything, so take that into account.

Thanks
 
So I have a question. Given the price of coffee at the Grocery, is this an economically viable pastime. I'd be starting completely from scratch, ie, no grinder or anything, so take that into account.

Thanks
Economics will depend on how into the process you become involved. My method is stone age, backyard hillbilly, unscientific but I do get pretty consistent results; my wife and I LOVE the freshness of my roasted beans. I use an electric heat gun, a bamboo spoon to stir and move beans which are in a 4-quart stainless steel pot. The pot sites on 1X boards in a cardboard box (without the board the box burns). Not much outlay in terms of equipment so far, right? I dump the roasted beans into a SS colander and transfer back and forth between the colander and a SS sieve to cool the beans. I don't weigh the green beans when beginning the roast; I measure by volume and less is better for my method to get a more uniform roast.

Grinder? I have a Baratza Encore which is a HUGE upgrade from the old blade grinders.

For me economics doesn't enter the equation. It's a hobby that results is what we believe is VERY GOOD coffee. I love watching the color change and the smell changes as the beans roast.
 
So I have a question. Given the price of coffee at the Grocery, is this an economically viable pastime. I'd be starting completely from scratch, ie, no grinder or anything, so take that into account.

Thanks
If you are satisfied with the quality and character of the coffee you find at the grocery store, then no, home roasting is not an economically viable pastime. If you are dissatisfied with the coffee options at the grocery store and spend the big bucks that they charge for the good stuff which is usually not available at the grocery store (although this varies widely), then it may pencil out, sorta. For me, a lot of it comes down to freshness, and that is a big reason why I roast my own. Many people don't realize that the coffee they are buying at the grocery store is dead. Stale. Flat. It is old coffee, roasted long ago and it is way past its prime. And IMO, frequently over-roasted. Really dark roasting can obscure some freshness issues and differences between batches of beans, and I think that might be a reason why it is popular.
 
Thanks, that's what I figured. Not sure my coffee palate is good enough to make it worthwhile. I am overall satisfied with the brand we by at the grocery (Chock Full o'Nuts).
 
Thanks, that's what I figured. Not sure my coffee palate is good enough to make it worthwhile. I am overall satisfied with the brand we by at the grocery (Chock Full o'Nuts).
I used to buy and enjoy Chock Full o' Nuts medium roast back in the day. And the Beavis in me still thinks the name is funny, huh, huhuh.
 
I don't roast my own, but the aroma during roasting has got to be well worth the price of admission.
You might be surprised. When you’re roasting, you get a whole spectrum of aromas from when the coffee is green and just starting to off gas, all the way to wherever you are when you finish your roast, and honestly to me none of those levels of roasting beans smell near as good as the intoxicating scent of the fresh ground (properly rested) beans. It’s not the same aroma.
 
If you are satisfied with the quality and character of the coffee you find at the grocery store, then no, home roasting is not an economically viable pastime. If you are dissatisfied with the coffee options at the grocery store and spend the big bucks that they charge for the good stuff which is usually not available at the grocery store (although this varies widely), then it may pencil out, sorta. For me, a lot of it comes down to freshness, and that is a big reason why I roast my own. Many people don't realize that the coffee they are buying at the grocery store is dead. Stale. Flat. It is old coffee, roasted long ago and it is way past its prime. And IMO, frequently over-roasted. Really dark roasting can obscure some freshness issues and differences between batches of beans, and I think that might be a reason why it is popular.
how long will the beans remain 'fresh' ?? and then i assume, u roast what you need for a bit, and then roast more?
 
Once you get dialed in with roasting beans, you can save some $$ vs buying the good stuff from a local shop (depending on what you invest in a roaster, grinder, brewer/espresso machine, etc.). But it’s still gonna cost more than shopping for whatever beans are on sale at the grocery store. After 10 years of roasting, I think my coffee is on par with what I can buy at a good cafe…and I enjoy the whole process…so I keep on roastin’.
 
how long will the beans remain 'fresh' ?? and then i assume, u roast what you need for a bit, and then roast more?
The green beans keep for a year or more no problem. Roasted coffee starts to detectably deteriorate, to me, after a couple weeks. How you store it can affect this. A good airtight fully opaque storage container helps maintain freshness— UV and O2 are your enemies. I usually have a batch mostly for espresso and a batch mostly for Aeropress hanging around at the same time. I’m roasting coffee about once every 1-2 weeks on average I’d say. Every now and then there are weeks I’m really hitting the espresso and then I have to roast more. I also like to share my beans but only with people who I feel like truly appreciate it. Yeah I’m judgy that way, same thing goes for the albacore I like to hand out— Don’t tell me you froze it!
 
You might be surprised. When you’re roasting, you get a whole spectrum of aromas from when the coffee is green and just starting to off gas, all the way to wherever you are when you finish your roast, and honestly to me none of those levels of roasting beans smell near as good as the intoxicating scent of the fresh ground (properly rested) beans. It’s not the same aroma.
I usually roast beans at the garage door threshold. I enjoy the changing smells (I like your word: spectrum, so true) of the beans as their color changes - but especially the aroma as the beans begin to smoke a bit. That scent lingers in the garage after I move the car back in and close the door.

Sipping a cup of last weeks roast ....... delicious.
 
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