Cheap a** switch rod

Pink Nighty

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My daughter, 8, has been swinging flies with me for a few seasons on a 9' 5wt and a 200g skagit. Uses two hands above the reel to cast it, which while adorable has become rather limiting to distance and accuracy. That's become a problem for her, and she asked me how we could fix it.

I cook for a living, and recently had both my spey rods lifted from my truck and had to drop some coin to get back fishing. That's to say we were gonna be on a budget.

I started scouring amazon for the rod. Wanted a 6-8 wt, 10-11 ft switch rod. Choices under 300 were limited to say the least, and came down to two choices, and aventik 11'6 8wt for 100$ and a month long weight or and brandless, featureless 10'9 8wt for 60 and a week long delivery time.

With the skagit rapidly approaching closed I went for the cheaper option. Reviews were mixed. Some found the ferrules didnt seat properly. Some had breakage and no recourse. Some found it to be a cheap, functional fishing tool. I hoped for the latter and bought it.

It arrived, and we set to testing lines. High winds kept scuttling our practice attempts on the river, but I got it shooting line in the yard decently with a 350g 20ft skagit and 8ft of t11. Figured it could handle a bit more weight but being for my daughter I didnt want to add length. Picked up a 16$ maxcatch 400g 20ft Skagit and took it to the sauk yesterday.

That rod is kind of friggin sweet. Light as all hell in the hand, easily cast 10 strps of line with lightly weighted fly. Is capable of 70ft casts with almost zero d-loop behind you, great for high banks and trees.

I ran the math, with a cheap reel and cheap lines you're swinging flies effectively and efficiently for about 120$ all told.

Just wanted to say if you've been looking for backup rods, kids rods, etc.... there are good deals to be had!
 
I agree. I picked up a 10’ 6# Shakespeare for a lake rod, that only cost $120. Has titanium strip guides, quality reel seat, etc. It’s a nice rod. I also bought some Rainshadow kits for cheap and they’re the sweetest little rods around. You don’t need to spend a lot for good, usable gear..
 
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Glad your beater stick is nice!

I bought a maxcatch 2wt for my kids so that when they break it I wasn’t super upset. Got the rod and it’s surprisingly good.
 
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Don't know anything about the LL Bean rods. Their stuff is usually decent quality, but that doesn't speak to how they cast. Which leads me to the point that if you're just learning 2-handed casting, longer rods, i.e., 12' or longer, are much easier to learn with than the shorter switch rods.
 
Don't know anything about the LL Bean rods. Their stuff is usually decent quality, but that doesn't speak to how they cast. Which leads me to the point that if you're just learning 2-handed casting, longer rods, i.e., 12' or longer, are much easier to learn with than the shorter switch rods.
Interesting. I've been fishing single hand skagit and figured a shorter switch rod would kind of bridge the gap and be easier to cast. Thanks for the tip.
 
Interesting. I've been fishing single hand skagit and figured a shorter switch rod would kind of bridge the gap and be easier to cast. Thanks for the tip.
I'm not trying to question @Salmo_g but I find 11-12 ft rods easier to cast a well matched skagit than a 14ft. It's also harder to find appropriate skagits for 14ft rods nowadays. I had to hunt lines for my 1440 without going spey or scandi, YMMV.
 
Been thinking about taking the plunge into the world of 2-handers and pricing some economical switch rods. Anyone heard anything about the LL Bean Streamlight switch rods? https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/121908?page=streamlight-ultra-ii-switch-rod-109in-6-weight-4-piece&bc=29-507923&feat=507923-GN0&csp=f&attrValue_0=237&gnrefine=1*LN_WGHT_RNG*7-9 wt&pos=15
How do you plan on fishing the switch rod? Two handed Over head casting? Or just a shorter Spay rod? I find a faster rod is best for two handed overhead casting, but I don’t spay cast so I shouldn’t have started this until I read your post again.
 
Interesting. I've been fishing single hand skagit and figured a shorter switch rod would kind of bridge the gap and be easier to cast. Thanks for the tip.
Shorter rods, like switch rods are faster action than longer rods, making the 2-handed timing harder to learn. If you're thinking of trout Spey, then a longer rod might be hard to find. The sweet spot for trout Spey rods seems to be around 11'. I have one but have yet to use it, so I can't speak to its ease of casting. But I have 2-handers from 12' to 14', and if I could have but one, it would be 13'.
 
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How do you plan on fishing the switch rod? Two handed Over head casting? Or just a shorter Spay rod? I find a faster rod is best for two handed overhead casting, but I don’t spay cast so I shouldn’t have started this until I read your post again.
Shorter rods, like switch rods are faster action than longer rods, making the 2-handed timing harder to learn. If you're thinking of trout Spey, then a longer rod might be hard to find. The sweet spot for trout Spey rods seems to be around 11'. I have one but have yet to use it, so I can't speak to its ease of casting. But I have 2-handers from 12' to 14', and if I could have but one, it would be 13'.
Not really looking for a trout spey, just trying to get a little more distance than I currently get with a single hand 9' 7wt and a skagit head. Most, if not all, of it's use would be for the Trinity. Not a whole lot of really big water. If given enough space for a back cast, I can get the most distance out of an overhead cast with a haul so I'd probably over head cast when possible. Also, I suck at line management, which definitely hinders my sustained anchor casting. Most of my fishing is walk and wade so there's a fair amount of busting through brush, so the longer the rod, the more difficult it is to get through brush. With a 12'+ rod I'd have to break it down in half every time I move down a brushy bank. I like the idea of the Echo OHS, just can't afford the $500 price tag at the moment.
 
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Some inexpensive Cabela's and Ross 6 and 7 wt switch rods over on SP right now.

Also the big auction site has Shakespeare Oracle 2 switch rods from UK for pretty cheap.
I recently bought a 9'6" 7 wt Shakey O that's pretty sweet. Came with two additional fighting butts for single hand spey use.
 
Some inexpensive Cabela's and Ross 6 and 7 wt switch rods over on SP right now.

Also the big auction site has Shakespeare Oracle 2 switch rods from UK for pretty cheap.
I recently bought a 9'6" 7 wt Shakey O that's pretty sweet. Came with two additional fighting butts for single hand spey use.
I saw the Shakespeare's on the auction site and was wondering about them. The 9'6" 7wt you're referring to, is that the still water model? How would the action on that differ from something meant for moving water?
 
Yes I got the stillwater model, and it feels like a "moving water" rod... Pretty sure in the UK they apply specific use terminology for marketing purposes.
I see they now offer 10' and 11' models in 7 and 8 weight. I would have popped for the 10' as opposed to 9'6" if they were available when I purchased.
Very little info on them to be found aside from on UK fishing boards.
From what I have read the original Oracle switch rods had cult like following.

Might have to order a 10' 8 wt just to see what's what. 😁
 
I will add that the only thing I don't care for are the reel seats they decided to use. On spey, switch or single hand rods over 6 weight it's not a big deal.
 
Thanks @Pink Nighty . I'll save that one in my cart. The $50 price tag is looking even better after opening my home insurance policy renewal yesterday.o_O What 450 gr head are you using on that?
 
I saw the Shakespeare's on the auction site and was wondering about them. The 9'6" 7wt you're referring to, is that the still water model? How would the action on that differ from something meant for moving water?

I bought a 10ft, 6# Shakespeare from England. It’s a great rod for cheap. Nice workmanship and components. It was my backup lake rod for years. I’ve gone back to using 9ft rods so it’s headed to the classifieds soon.
 
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