Carp have moved to deeper water?

[Pink Nighty]

I wouldn't characterize it as a shame, not at all. It's just very uncommon. I'm very happy fishing for carp with a sunken fly, it's still sight casting and at times only sensing when to set.

@Buzzy your desire to get a clooper on the schmootz is well noted. You don't have to pretend. Of course the standard nymphing is great, but to get em on a clump of green foam up on top? Just the the thought of those lips gracefully slurping on the fly.....

 

[Northern]

I actually see them at the surface a LOT, and often in groups. Sometimes but not always, they are "clooping" - tube mouths working the surface for something, but nothing I can identify.
I've never gotten them to eat any dry fly.

A week or so ago, there were carp, both singular and in groups, just milling around under the surface on a Basin lake. Some had their backs poking out of the water, but only saw one (out of dozens) with lips up.
Casting just outside one of the groups, I did get one to chase and eat a slow-stripped, glass bead head, black marabou leech just under the surface: