SFR AI imagining...it's fun!

[Evan B]

I get that Evan, I just know it won't go away

Well, it's currently a massive drain on resources without much in the way to generate revenue. They're still trying to figure out how to make it be profitable. So if that balance isn't reached, who knows how it will look down the line. The tech may be around, but probably just behind the scenes stuff used against us vs "fun" tools we play with online. The only real reason we have access to it now is to train it.

 

[flybill]

Well, it's currently a massive drain on resources without much in the way to generate revenue. They're still trying to figure out how to make it be profitable. So if that balance isn't reached, who knows how it will look down the line. The tech may be around, but probably just behind the scenes stuff used against us vs "fun" tools we play with online. The only real reason we have access to it now is to train it.

I agree, it is a drain on resources and that more than anything really needs addressed! Will it be, probably not in my lifetime... and just because the tech is there, we don't have to use it.. however it will be used regardless if every PNWFF member doesn't use it.. I'm gonna take a break and go fishing! I'll post real pictures, if I catch anything! Peace all!

 

[Bambooflyguy]

I've seen that piece before and, IMHO, it is simply breathtaking.

Well Jim, I carved this years ago….and it took me longer than a few minutes! But to each their own.

 

[Matt B]

Oh and also, this AI sloppic, if the frog flees with its mouth open it deserves to die. No way frogs gonna' flee with mouth open, that's a behavioral cost that limits escape and would have been selected out long ago ....
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That frog is stoked to escape with its life and the bass will go hungry. As any bass-fishin' popper enthusiast knows, bass are suction feeders. They quickly open their maw creating a sucking draw that engulfs their prey in milliseconds...or, in this case, doesn't engulf their prey. That frog is getting away.

 

[Peyton00]

The frog is dinner. Mouth open and legs extended. Propulsion system is not engaged. Nowhere to go but down the gullet..... That's why he's got the oh shit look.
Now if it was on the end of a fly line, the frog would get away because it would be yanked out of the fish mouth as soon as he broke the surface.

 

[Jim in Anacortes]

Bambooflyguy... I truly envy your artistic abilities. I look at your carving and it "moves" me. I was trying to use AI to emulate your art (just for the heck of it). At some point I felt that I was trespassing on your creativity. I stopped playing with this image immediately. AI imaging is like playing with fire...It's fun, but only if you do it responsibly. Please accept my apology.. I just wanted to see what AI would spit out if I would describe your carving.

 

[Bambooflyguy]

No apologies necessary Jim, you’re just doing your thing as I enjoy doing mine. It’d be very boring if everybody did exactly the same thing. But thanks for not AI’ing the crap outta my carving!

 

[Capt Insano Emeritis]

I listened to this podcast a while ago. It scratches the surface on the issue of stolen intellectual property of artists and provides a way that some are fighting back. Worth the listen if you're interested in the topic of AI generated images and art.

Thanks for posting. I met the author in Portland at the museum I spent a career at . He did a synopsis of his book Art and the Law that was enlightening yet so far back in time now I just do not recall the specifics anymore. Copyright law is important in defining what makes and documents your creations as an artist. Today I saw a court decision against an AI company filing an appeal regarding an attempt to copyright there process. Ironically actors and performers having their depiction being absconded without contract agreements has been battled in favor of the actors. This should also included AI generated vocal tracking and the ongoing thefts of visual media that occurs around the world everyday. Having personally been stolen from myself over decades in those analog and digital days I know just how it makes a creator feel… violated. AI is just the latest form of theivery. Someone here made declarative statements about AI being fun and not being a threat to artists. Some opinions are just meaningless. And yes that is my opinion but based on first hand experience and many classroom lectures on the importance of originality and artistic honesty. Young HS age students truly appreciated discussions like that. They were mature enough to know what it meant and how they saw themselves developing into the artists they wanted to be.

As for this elongated thread. Well it has surprised me the level of folks here not understanding the sheer obscenity that this forced phenomenon actually is becoming. Yes I am disappointed bit not surprised given the changes around me and in me as a result.

 

[Rio Grande King]

Here's Little Rio Grande King sitting in a boat on the Limpopo. AI topped with photo manipulation. It's for a Just So story.
Been spending lots of time playing with this stuff the past several weeks- mainly to try to distract from the horrid news.

 

[Yard Sale]

You guys old enough to remember when people sold those obnoxious blankets on chain link fences with super cheesy images like Jesus riding a tiger over a waterfall?

Yeah, that's AI "art".

 

[Zak]

Here's Little Rio Grande King sitting in a boat on the Limpopo. AI topped with photo manipulation. It's for a Just So story.
Been spending lots of time playing with this stuff the past several weeks- mainly to try to distract from the horrid news. View attachment 179561

Do you know how Little Rio Grande King got such long arms, dearly beloved?

 

[Jim in Anacortes]

I remember the old days, when a photo image was instantly copyrighted to whomever actually tripped the shutter. Every photograph was instantly copyrighted...no little c with a circle was necessary. No matter that an assistant set up the lights, camera and set...whoever actually tripped that shutter...owned that image. Those were much simpler days.

 

[Jim in Anacortes]

Post #248. "Someone here made declarative statements about AI being fun and not being a threat to artists"... this statement stuck in my craw. AI is fun..extremely fun. Also I will say that commercial artists (not art teachers), but people that actually make a living producing marketable images... will have their hands full, as AI completely changes the art world....... ( and the rest of our worlds.)

 

[Jim in Anacortes]

A true artist can teach a high school class....But a real artist gets a fat check from Qualcomm.

 

[SculpinSwinger]

A true artist can teach a high school class....But a real artist gets a fat check from Qualcomm.

A true artist doesn’t sell out

 

[onefish]

I am no artist, but it looks like AI will soon make artists a thing of the past.

 

[Capt Insano Emeritis]

I remember the old days, when a photo image was instantly copyrighted to whomever actually tripped the shutter. Every photograph was instantly copyrighted...no little c with a circle was necessary. No matter that an assistant set up the lights, camera and set...whoever actually tripped that shutter...owned that image. Those were much simpler days.

A good friend I lost a number of years ago and I had a great many discussions of photographic history and the very nature of capturing beauty around us.I spent a lot of time in darkrooms , built a couple and designed exhibits through collaboration concerning historic photography.

Wild Beauty | OSU Press

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[Capt Insano Emeritis]

A good friend I lost a number of years ago and I had a great many discussions of photographic history and the very nature of capturing beauty around us.I spent a lot of time in darkrooms , built a couple and designed exhibits through collaboration concerning historic photography.

Wild Beauty | OSU Press

Winner of a 2009 Pacific Northwest Booksellers Association Book Award Selected by the Oregon Arts Commission to receive the American Masterpieces Initiative grant awarded by the National Endowment for the Arts Oregon's official book in the Pavilion of the States at the National Book Festival in...

osupress.oregonstate.edu

Oh yeah I forgot , “there’s no crying in baseball!”

 

[Capt Insano Emeritis]

A true artist can teach a high school class....But a real artist gets a fat check from Qualcomm.

The tone of your commentary is foreign to me. When i see you conjure “the old days” within a content it convinces me you know little of what you are attempting to convey. You seem to enjoy this. I do not. You can be annoying but I believe that is your schtick. Are you related to Hacksaw a one time nemesis and Idaho friend of mine on Westfly 15-20 years ago? You sound familiar. Ha!

 

[Ernie]

I would like to add that I am a total newbie and this is just an example of a very embryonic attempt at AI imagining .....That's what makes it so exiting.

It’s probably fun because it brings a vicarious experience.