$2M triangle to help migratory fish (and 3 more needed)

Matt B

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I hope this works! It seems crazy that it costs $2 million to manufacture a single non-structural 60' x 60' x 85' x 21.5' triangle to slap on an inside float corner, but what do I know?
 
Cool story for sure - good to see when issues are identified and solutions implemented.
$2M sounds really high for that scope.... 🤷‍♂️

Hopefully they get enough money to finish the other 3 corners they've identified as problematic.
 
Cool story for sure - good to see when issues are identified and solutions implemented.
$2M sounds really high for that scope.... 🤷‍♂️

Hopefully they get enough money to finish the other 3 corners they've identified as problematic.
Right? I've got a DeWalt cordless drill and a boat. My dad was an engineer (chemical engineer, but whatever). Gimme some PVC pipe and a sawzall and let me at it.
 
Right? I've got a DeWalt cordless drill and a boat. My dad was an engineer (chemical engineer, but whatever). Gimme some PVC pipe and a sawzall and let me at it.
I've got a sawzall (think I actually might have 3). Oh, and I've got a few cans of primer and glue.
Should we put in a bid on the other 3?
I'm thinking together we could get it done.
 
I've got a sawzall (think I actually might have 3). Oh, and I've got a few cans of primer and glue.
Should we put in a bid on the other 3?
I'm thinking together we could get it done.
Since there was $3.6 million earmarked, I think we can do 3 more for $1.6M. We might even be able to hire some help from the board.
 
Anyone else in? We pay prevailing wage. And since we'll be working from a boat, lunch breaks will be spent chasing SRC and coho. Dream job folks. Dream job.
 
Do you pay travel/relocation expenses/housing (currently stranded in North Carolina)? Wait, I guess the housing would eat up the $1.6M pretty quick, so skip the thought.

cheers
 
Having grown up fishing the canal streams for steelhead, I hope this works.
I agree the cost seems very high, but it’s the government so I guess it is to be expected.
I’d have to think that would have gone out to bid, correct?
Since the goal is to eliminate the 90° corners, if that works well I wonder if they can eliminate some of the blunt edges as well?
Obviously they couldn’t do it on the whole bridge from a cost prospective, but maybe where those corners are? Sorry for my poor artwork. ;)
The tide rips through there and the bridge gets hammered by big blows, so it will be interesting to see how those structures hold up.
SF

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Having grown up fishing the canal streams for steelhead, I hope this works.
I agree the cost seems very high, but it’s the government so I guess it is to be expected.
I’d have to think that would have gone out to bid, correct?
Since the goal is to eliminate the 90° corners, if that works well I wonder if they can eliminate some of the blunt edges as well?
Obviously they couldn’t do it on the whole bridge from a cost prospective, but maybe where those corners are? Sorry for my poor artwork. ;)
The tide rips through there and the bridge gets hammered by big blows, so it will be interesting to see how those structures hold up.
SF

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Interesting idea. That design just puts a 90* corner in a new place though (pointing south). And, it means more triangles needed. Saaaay, you aren’t working for Big Triangle, are you?
 
I've got a sawzall (think I actually might have 3). Oh, and I've got a few cans of primer and glue.
Should we put in a bid on the other 3?
I'm thinking together we could get it done.
I can’t believe we didn’t get that job. Rigged!

 
Was just showing my wife this route. My theory is that Inslee, champion of the environment, is so tickled with this idea that he really wants to give all of pugetropolis a chance to witness these momentous triangles in person. Nothing screams environmentally conscious than an unnecessary 300 mile oversize load haul to end up 20 miles from where you started.
 
Are there cranes in Kingston that could pick and set the structure in the water?
If not, that's probably why they had to truck it to a location where there's a crane.
 
I’d imagine they could get the price tag up to maybe $2.5 million if they add on a few dozen meetings about whether to install said triangle on an incoming or outgoing tide…..😉
SF
 
I wonder what the "other" costs are associated with this "fillet"? WSDOT's reviews/permitting (didn't a portion of this bridge sink once upon a time?), consulting engineering firms, the other involved agencies - NOAA, WDFW, USFWS, Corps, Tribes.......... who am I missing? I hope it helps.
 
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