U.S. drafts plan to bring grizzly bears back to Washington’s North Cascades (WAPO)

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Salmo_g said:
Black bears are often mistaken for grizzly bears. Like in that film clip of the bear taking a chicken, that wasn't a grizzly. I am still doubtful that we will see a major increase in grizzly bears in WA because I don't think all the habitat requirements are abundant enough. Unlike the wolves who understand that cattle equals slow elk.
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KREM TV in Spokane claims this is the bear from that scene.
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Grizzly bear captured in Stevens County after killing chickens

The announcement of the capture comes just one day after the USFW and National Perk Service released a draft plan to restore grizzly bears to the Northern Cascades.
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Merle said:
That map can’t be right, bear sighting sure but grizzly bears in Mukilteo and Auburn? No way.
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Peyton00 said:
Grizzly bear near Auburn.
Somebody's Turkey dinner was laced.
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Matt B said:
I just can’t believe nobody is talking about the Mukilteo grizzlies. It is clear they were planning to take the ferry and invade Whidbey. But you don’t read about that in the lame stream media, do ya now, HMMM?
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Me too! I have contacted the KREM investigative reporter to find the "official" data source location.
 
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Salmo_g said:
Like in that film clip of the bear taking a chicken, that wasn't a grizzly.
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Apparently it was a grizzly. My bad. In the first photo shown, the head didn't look characteristically grizzly, but in the second photo it does. Doesn't matter; they trapped the bear and it was a grizzly bear that was stealing chickens. To borrow a phrase from Rob: it was "objectively demonstrated."
 
Oregon is complaining about wolves and mountain lions (lack of deer and elk), California is complaining about wolves and bears...
 
Matt B said:
I just can’t believe nobody is talking about the Mukilteo grizzlies. It is clear they were planning to take the ferry and invade Whidbey. But you don’t read about that in the lame stream media, do ya now, HMMM?
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Big Grizz has the same PR firm as Big Otter...
Salting the lame stream media with favorable stories, while covering up the truth of their sinister intentions.
 
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Just another example in the law of unintended consequences...
Now the chickens on the other side of the river are in great danger of grizz predation.

Another EPA failure...
 
Not too sure about the wisdom of reintroducing grizzlies but I fish all the time in prime grizzly habitat and have yet to see one though I do see plenty of tracks. They definitely never make it down to Vancouver but they may show up from time to time in Squamish. City bears are mostly only on the north shore and almost exclusively black bears which seem to be more adaptable to living besides humans (eating trash).

Very few grizzly attacks in the Squamish valley even though it gets a lot of traffic from city folk. Also hardly ever hear of interactions though they did find a grizzly that was shot up there this year.

There are a couple wolves that frequent another river I fish and I have seen them from a safe distance. All in all all of these animals seem to be extremely wary of humans and like others have noted they have gotten the message that we are bad news. Hopefully they can keep enough distance to survive until we humans kill ourselves off and they can move back into their historical territory.

Who do you think ate this guys brains?
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tkp said:
Not too sure about the wisdom of reintroducing grizzlies but I fish all the time in prime grizzly habitat and have yet to see one though I do see plenty of tracks. They definitely never make it down to Vancouver but they may show up from time to time in Squamish. City bears are mostly only on the north shore and almost exclusively black bears which seem to be more adaptable to living besides humans (eating trash).

Very few grizzly attacks in the Squamish valley even though it gets a lot of traffic from city folk. Also hardly ever hear of interactions though they did find a grizzly that was shot up there this year.

There are a couple wolves that frequent another river I fish and I have seen them from a safe distance. All in all all of these animals seem to be extremely wary of humans and like others have noted they have gotten the message that we are bad news. Hopefully they can keep enough distance to survive until we humans kill ourselves off and they can move back into their historical territory.

Who do you think ate this guys brains?
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A bird too small to carry it?…
 
Brute said:
A bird too small to carry it?…
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It had been dragged about 100 yards out of the spawning channel up a steep hill onto the railroad tracks so it had to be something strong enough to bring it up there. I assumed a bear but I just finished reading this book: https://greystonebooks.com/products/following-the-last-wild-wolves

Which describes how wolves specifically target the salmon brains while bears will eat other parts as well. Since this was about 500 yards from where I have seen a pair of wolves on this river I suspect they are the culprits.

Book is worth the read for anyone interested.
 
tkp said:
It had been dragged about 100 yards out of the spawning channel up a steep hill onto the railroad tracks so it had to be something strong enough to bring it up there. I assumed a bear but I just finished reading this book: https://greystonebooks.com/products/following-the-last-wild-wolves

Which describes how wolves specifically target the salmon brains while bears will eat other parts as well. Since this was about 500 yards from where I have seen a pair of wolves on this river I suspect they are the culprits.

Book is worth the read for anyone interested.
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Bears will do that too in spots with very productive fishing. I once watched a brown bear catch 45 sockeye in an hour and a half. The last ten or so, he ate just the brains and dropped the rest, to the delight of the less dominant bears fishing in unproductive spots downstream.

He went from eating the whole fish, to just the brains, skin and eggs (if available) to just the brains, to having fish bounce off his face and chest without attempting to catch them, to I need to take a dump and a nap in the span of 90 minutes :).
 
Cows kill more people in the United States each year than grizzly bears do:
Cows
On average, cows kill 20–22 people in the United States each year. About three-quarters of these incidents are deliberate attacks, typically by kicking or trampling.
Grizzly bears
On average, there are about 2–3 fatal grizzly bear attacks per year in North America. Non-fatal attacks are more common, with an average of 30–40 reported annually.
The vast majority of bear encounters do not result in attacks.

Statistically, cows pose a much greater threat to Americans than bears and sharks combined.
 
And black bear attacks tend to be of an actual predatory nature, while grizzly attacks are often a response to the bear perceiving a threat to its young or simply being surprised by the sudden presence of a human. That's why it's advised that one fight back as aggressively as possible if attacked by a black bear (it's likely the critter is intending to kill and eat you), but in the case of a grizzly attack it's advised that one should curl up in a fetal position, attempt to protect the back of the neck with one's hands, and try to 'play dead'.

Many grizzly attacks end with a mauling and the bear leaves because it believes the threat has been neutralized.

I met a man in the Yukon who had been mauled when he surprised a sow with her cubs. He survived, with a lot of damage...primarily to his head when she raked her teeth across the skin of his skull....and then left with her cubs.

During his recovery in the ER he insisted that the bear not be harmed...but he did relate to me that the attack meant his hair never 'parted right' anymore because the surgeons didn't piece his scalp back together correctly.

As you might expect, he was a real character, with huge street cred in his small community.
 
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