I wonder

wanderingrichard · Oct 21, 2023

Working through a donated desktop rebuild tonight and took a break to read through here. One of my favorite threads is What's in Your Vise due to the depth of talent on display.

Sitting back down to continue the forensics on this Dell, I'm wondering what would happen if we turned an AI loose with a properly set up 3D printer and told it to design the absolute ultimate fish catching fly pattern ever made.

What do you think would pop out ?

Ernie · Oct 21, 2023

some crazy combination of an elk hair caddis and woolly bugger

RCF · Oct 22, 2023

6" egg sucking clouser, polar bear body, heron feathers, eagle hackle with two sets of barbed treble hooks and lead eyes

Zak · Oct 22, 2023

Ultimate Trout Fly Pattern

Default (GPT-3.5)

Please provide a pattern for the ultimate trout fly

Creating the "ultimate" trout fly pattern can be subjective, as it depends on various factors such as the location, time of year, and specific trout species you're targeting. However, here's a basic pattern that works in many situations:
Dry Fly Pattern:
Materials:

Hook: Size 14-18 dry fly hook
Thread: Olive or brown 6/0 or 8/0
Tail: Grizzly or brown hackle fibers
Body: Olive or brown dubbing
Wing: Elk or deer hair
Hackle: Grizzly or brown hackle

Instructions:

Start by attaching your thread to the hook and create a thread base along the shank.
Tie in a few hackle fibers as the tail, keeping them about the length of the hook shank.
Dub a tapered body with olive or brown dubbing, leaving some space behind the eye of the hook.
Prepare a small bunch of elk or deer hair and tie it in as a wing, making sure it extends slightly beyond the tail.
Palmer a grizzly or brown hackle in front of the wing, creating a few wraps to form a collar.
Trim any excess materials, whip finish, and add a drop of head cement to secure the thread wraps.

This pattern imitates various insects, making it versatile for dry fly fishing. Adjust the colors and sizes to match the local insect hatches and trout preferences. Remember that the "ultimate" trout fly can vary from one angler to another, so experimentation and local knowledge are key.

Zak · Oct 22, 2023

Zak said:
Ultimate Trout Fly Pattern
Default (GPT-3.5)

Please provide a pattern for the ultimate trout fly

Creating the "ultimate" trout fly pattern can be subjective, as it depends on various factors such as the location, time of year, and specific trout species you're targeting. However, here's a basic pattern that works in many situations:
Dry Fly Pattern:
Materials:

Hook: Size 14-18 dry fly hook

Thread: Olive or brown 6/0 or 8/0

Tail: Grizzly or brown hackle fibers

Body: Olive or brown dubbing

Wing: Elk or deer hair

Hackle: Grizzly or brown hackle

Instructions:

Start by attaching your thread to the hook and create a thread base along the shank.

Tie in a few hackle fibers as the tail, keeping them about the length of the hook shank.

Dub a tapered body with olive or brown dubbing, leaving some space behind the eye of the hook.

Prepare a small bunch of elk or deer hair and tie it in as a wing, making sure it extends slightly beyond the tail.

Palmer a grizzly or brown hackle in front of the wing, creating a few wraps to form a collar.

Trim any excess materials, whip finish, and add a drop of head cement to secure the thread wraps.

This pattern imitates various insects, making it versatile for dry fly fishing. Adjust the colors and sizes to match the local insect hatches and trout preferences. Remember that the "ultimate" trout fly can vary from one angler to another, so experimentation and local knowledge are key.

Not bad, except for the misuse of "palmer."

Rob Allen · Oct 22, 2023

wanderingrichard said:
Working through a donated desktop rebuild tonight and took a break to read through here. One of my favorite threads is What's in Your Vise due to the depth of talent on display.

Sitting back down to continue the forensics on this Dell, I'm wondering what would happen if we turned an AI loose with a properly set up 3D printer and told it to design the absolute ultimate fish catching fly pattern ever made.

What do you think would pop out ?

Sodium phosphate enriched chartreuse nightcrawler

wanderingrichard · Oct 22, 2023

Rob Allen said:
Sodium phosphate enriched chartreuse nightcrawler

You mean a Cheetos Fly ???

Stonedfish · Oct 22, 2023

Whatever fly might AI produced, I’d bet an Atlantic salmon and a pumpkin would both eat it.
SF

Matt B · Oct 22, 2023

Zak said:
Not bad, except for the misuse of "palmer."

Is that wrong? I guess I don’t know the difference between just wrapping hackle and palmering it.
So this dry fly is some generic buggy caddis-y emerger thing with natural materials. Sounds like a catcher.

Rob Allen · Oct 22, 2023

Ernie said:
some crazy combination of an elk hair caddis and woolly bugger

I once tied a Caddis sucking leech..

BriGuy · Oct 22, 2023

Rapala,

Zak · Oct 22, 2023

Matt B said:
Is that wrong? I guess I don’t know the difference between just wrapping hackle and palmering it.
So this dry fly is some generic buggy caddis-y emerger thing with natural materials. Sounds like a catcher.

I think palmering means leaving space between each wrap. I'll look it up and report back.

Norm Frechette · Oct 22, 2023

palmer can be both

open spiral wraps - ie wooly bugger

touching wraps - ie bivisibles

iveofione · Oct 22, 2023

wanderingrichard said:
Working through a donated desktop rebuild tonight and took a break to read through here. One of my favorite threads is What's in Your Vise due to the depth of talent on display.

Sitting back down to continue the forensics on this Dell, I'm wondering what would happen if we turned an AI loose with a properly set up 3D printer and told it to design the absolute ultimate fish catching fly pattern ever made.

What do you think would pop out ?

A Blob!

SurfnFish · Oct 22, 2023

FinLuver · Oct 22, 2023

wanderingrichard said:
Working through a donated desktop rebuild tonight and took a break to read through here. One of my favorite threads is What's in Your Vise due to the depth of talent on display.

Sitting back down to continue the forensics on this Dell, I'm wondering what would happen if we turned an AI loose with a properly set up 3D printer and told it to design the absolute ultimate fish catching fly pattern ever made.

What do you think would pop out ?

Nothing….