Belize

I just wrapped up a 7 day trip to Belize. It was our first trip here and we really enjoyed it. Over the 7 days, I spent 3 days fishing. I’ve been fishing since I can remember and fly fishing for 20+ years but this was my first time doing any type of flats type fishing. It was a great experience and I can definitely see more of it in my future.

The night before my first day out, my guide Alex stopped by dinner to talk about logistics, get a sense for my experience level and ask if I had anything in particular I wanted to accomplish over the three days. We were in Punta Gorda so I think he assumed Permit would be my quarry of choice. I told him Permit would be great but in the end, I’ve caught none of the flats fish folks target so I was open to anything. I think that put him at ease a bit. The time of year and weather conditions were not ideal for permit and that combined with my experience level made it unlikely I’d have a ton of success catching targeting permit only. Ok, let’s target what’s available. Sounds good to me.

Day one we met at the marina and motored out to a big lagoon that holds permit, juvenile tarpon and some bonefish. Based on tides and weather conditions, Alex decided we’d target the tarpon first. We motored around to a number of likely spots but did not spot any fish. We also made some blind casts to likely holding water with no success so continued our search. Around mid morning, we spotted a small group of fish surface and the chase was on. The fish were moving around a bit so getting the boat in the right position to cast in the deep channel leading into the lagoon took a little time but eventually we did and started making casts. First a floater with a heavy fly. No bueno. The fly was not getting deep enough. Did you happen to bring an intermediate or sinking head line? Yep, both. We switched to the type 7 head and first cast were into a fish the promptly spit me. A couple casts later and I was able to land my first juvenile tarpon. Tons of fun on a fly rod.

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Shortly thereafter, I got another quick bump then the fish disappeared so it was onto permit. First we searched the lagoon and never found any. Then we went out to the flats as the sun got higher in the sky and over the course of the afternoon we saw two nice fish, both of which I got legit shots at. Neither of which resulted in hookups. One fish just ignored my fly. The other moved towards it but spooked as it got hung up in a bit of turtle grass. Boo. On to day two.

Day 2 Alex decided we would fully concentrate on permit in the lagoons. It was intermittently cloudy with some rain showers moving through which I was told is not great for flats fishing for permit. It was a tough day though I think fairly normal for those who target permit regularly. We laid eyes on 6-7 permit through the day and had legit shots at 4 of them. No hookups though. Of the 4 shots, I had 2 refusals, one horrible cast that landed on the fishes head and spooked him and one solid (but long) cast but the fish turned last second and headed into the mangroves without seeing the fly. I also had a random shot at a larger bonefish and was rewarded with my first ever bonefish hookup but he promptly spit me leaving me skunked for the day. Bummer! As a side note, it’s crazy how deep they can maneuver those boats into the mangroves. Hard work for the folks doing the polling.

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Day three Alex decided it was time to get me a tug or too and made the decision to take me out to the reef about 6 miles offshore to target bonefish. Fine by me! I can see the appeal of targeting permit and will definitely do more of it in the future but I had never caught a bonefish either. I was ready to knock that species off the list. As we approached the first spot, Alex quickly spotted a group of small bones and had me make a cast. Fish on…and off. The old trout set special. Not to worry, the bones were small, numerous and not easily spooked. Great for a newb like me :). A couple more casts later and I had landed my first ever bonefish. Small but my first so we snapped a quick pic. I believe the buildings in back of me are an outpost for the Belize Coast Guard.

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The rest of the day we had tons of shots at bones ranging in size from the one in the pic to double that. Overall, I landed 14 or 15 and lost a handful of others. We fished for them in sandy flats, over hard coral bottoms and even in deeper water in the channels when Alex saw signs of them mudding. We also had a shot at a couple of trigger fish who seems to have no interest in my offering. We did spend a little time looking for permit but never found any. I was a really fun day overall. A great fishery for a new flats fisherman like myself to get his feet wet.

So, over 3 days of fishing we targeted juvenile tarpon for 1/2 day and landed one, permit for 1 1/2 day, got 6 legit shots and landed none and bonefish for a day and landed a bunch. Overall, a great trip but more importantly a great learning experience. I learned a lot. Sometimes when I did things right but more often when I got comments like “nice but that cast won’t work on big bones when you get a chance to target them”.

I also just really enjoyed Belize overall. Great people, good food, fishing, wildlife, etc. I’ll definitely be headed back.

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flybill

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I'll be down there late next year or 2025! Planning on El Pescador.. sounds like a perfect trip, and I'll have to constantly fight my urge to set it like a trout set! I do fish for sea run cutthroat trout and work on the strip set. Also to bow when the fish jumps! What weight rods did you bring? I'm planning on a 6, 7, 8 and my 10 wt rods. Maybe two 8wts so I have a backup..

So cool you had some shots at permit and landed a nice little juvinille tarpon!

Fish on!
 

jasmillo

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I'll be down there late next year or 2025! Planning on El Pescador.. sounds like a perfect trip, and I'll have to constantly fight my urge to set it like a trout set! I do fish for sea run cutthroat trout and work on the strip set. Also to bow when the fish jumps! What weight rods did you bring? I'm planning on a 6, 7, 8 and my 10 wt rods. Maybe two 8wts so I have a backup..

So cool you had some shots at permit and landed a nice little juvinille tarpon!

Fish on!

I brought a 7, 8 and 9. Floaters and an intermediate and sinker for the 9. Did not think I’d use the sinker but it was the ticket for the tarpon we encountered.
 

NRC

I’m just here so I don’t get mined
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Awesome report, thanks for posting.

I’m curious as a fellow Puget Sound fisher who’s never tried the flats - where do you feel your Puget Sound saltwater fishing skills left you most lacking in this new arena?
 

jasmillo

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Awesome report, thanks for posting.

I’m curious as a fellow Puget Sound fisher who’s never tried the flats - where do you feel your Puget Sound saltwater fishing skills left you most lacking in this new arena?

I think there were a couple of areas. I cast well enough so that was not an issue but spotting fish and in particularly, being able to follow what direction they were moving so you can make the right cast was challenging, especially at first. I am not sure there is much you can do about that except do it a lot. Leading fish the appropriate amount was another thing I could have done better. Cast in front, pull in front, etc. The permit in the lagoons actually reminded me a bit of chum fish estuaries actually. Spot the V and try and get your fly in front of the fish to intercept. Slow stripping, different action put in the fly, etc was another. A lot of the fishing we do in PS is blind casting to fishy looking water versus sight casting to moving fish. Even trout fishing in rivers is different. Even if casting to rising fish because there is a pattern and feeding lane to target. Getting the right cast to a moving target so the fly is presented appropriately is a learning experience even if you are a solid caster.
 

DimeBrite

Saltwater fly fisherman
I’m curious as a fellow Puget Sound fisher who’s never tried the flats - where do you feel your Puget Sound saltwater fishing skills left you most lacking in this new arena?

Adding to the spot on comments above...

It is necessary to more carefully present a fly "feed the fish" with a longer taper fly line. In PS we get accustomed to bombing out blind casts into the distance with shooting heads, which is counter productive on the flats (spooks out the fish). It is very helpful to maintain line control with your non-casting hand for distance control and to soften the presentation (like dry fly casting to trout). Learning to cast a tight loop accurately deep into the shady water under mangrove branches really helps to catch more juvenile tarpon and snook. Also, adjusting your eyes to scan for fish in close and at a distance takes 2 or 3 days. Then learning to immediately recognize what fish species you are seeing and how to present the fly to them swiftly and accurately is critical. Finally, reading the body language of the fish or how it is responding to the fly helps in making adjustments to your strip/retrieve to trigger a strike. Endless fun!
 
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Jim F.

Still a Genuine Montana Fossil
Ditto what Pat said.
 

Porter2

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Hiw did you like that new G.Loomis Pro V2S? Been told pretty nice and much more refined than first generation.
 

jasmillo

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Hiw did you like that new G.Loomis Pro V2S? Been told pretty nice and much more refined than first generation.

I like it. If I was being honest though, not sure it would be my first choice for that type of fishing. It is great for booming big casts. I have the 7 weight that I use for beach coho that I love. It would make a great streamer rod too. Delicate presentations is where it lacks a bit IMO.
 
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Uptonogood

PNW raised
Sounds like a great trip! My three trips to Belize were a blast! The first trip we concentrated on bonefish and I landed 10+, 1 to 3lbs. The second trip we were more focused on permit and bones. I cast to a couple of smaller permit, no takers, an hour later I was tight to a 10-12lb fish. We hit the bonefish are, landed a 2lb fish and I finished the day with a very juvenile tarpon to which my guide and his buddies all said, “Tarpon is tarpon!” I accepted my Grand slam pin…

Third trip I couldn’t get any permit to take but had a blast with a bunch of ladyfish mixed into a school of bones. The ladyfish are referred to as”poor man’s tarpon”. Then the guide handed me his 9wt and told me to cast to a large, earl shadow easing along in the distance. He thought it was a tarpon, turned out to be a 25+ lb Jack. I didn’t want to fool with that fish but the guide had a family cookout and wanted to serve it. I battled that fish for an hour! Tiring, I started horsing it in and broke the guide’s rod at boat side! First fly rod (and only) fly rod I’ve ever broken. I bought him a great Orvis rod and set it to him.

I love Belize, fun fish, great people!

I haven’t been back for a number of years, got sidetracked to Africa instead. I’m thinking about heading back on a fun, relaxing bonefish trip again. I’m 75 years old now so it will have to be a bit slower and NO JACKS,
 

jasmillo

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Sounds like a great trip! My three trips to Belize were a blast! The first trip we concentrated on bonefish and I landed 10+, 1 to 3lbs. The second trip we were more focused on permit and bones. I cast to a couple of smaller permit, no takers, an hour later I was tight to a 10-12lb fish. We hit the bonefish are, landed a 2lb fish and I finished the day with a very juvenile tarpon to which my guide and his buddies all said, “Tarpon is tarpon!” I accepted my Grand slam pin…

Third trip I couldn’t get any permit to take but had a blast with a bunch of ladyfish mixed into a school of bones. The ladyfish are referred to as”poor man’s tarpon”. Then the guide handed me his 9wt and told me to cast to a large, earl shadow easing along in the distance. He thought it was a tarpon, turned out to be a 25+ lb Jack. I didn’t want to fool with that fish but the guide had a family cookout and wanted to serve it. I battled that fish for an hour! Tiring, I started horsing it in and broke the guide’s rod at boat side! First fly rod (and only) fly rod I’ve ever broken. I bought him a great Orvis rod and set it to him.

I love Belize, fun fish, great people!

I haven’t been back for a number of years, got sidetracked to Africa instead. I’m thinking about heading back on a fun, relaxing bonefish trip again. I’m 75 years old now so it will have to be a bit slower and NO JACKS,

I caught a small jack as well. I forgot about that. At one point we saw some big blowups on baitfish. I asked what those were and the guide said…”those are just jacks”. I wanted to say, ok let’s go get ‘em!” but we were deep into a permit search so we stayed on course. I kind of wish we would have made the switch and targeted them for a bit though :).
 

Chucker

Steelhead
I caught a small jack as well. I forgot about that. At one point we saw some big blowups on baitfish. I asked what those were and the guide said…”those are just jacks”. I wanted to say, ok let’s go get ‘em!” but we were deep into a permit search so we stayed on course. I kind of wish we would have made the switch and targeted them for a bit though :).

Permit are just self important jacks. You would not have regretted making a switch to go after the real thing.

I have found that a lot of guides really want to concentrate on permit, even when it’s basically a waste of time to do so. I don’t really know why that is. Maybe they think that they will get a better tip if you get one? machismo about being the best permit guide? Not wanting to deal with people actually catching fish? Who knows?

I have had more great days on the flats targeting jacks and barracuda than I have chasing permit.
 
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