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Tom Butler

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So the wife ditched out on me to go drink wine with the girls. WTF. No way to get to the upcoming fling so I decided to fish the Cortland 444 Ltd bamboo rod, and post some pre-fling porn from Walla Walla.
Picked these 2 pieces up about 2009 within a few weeks of each other from the ebay. I had recently given up bike racing and was getting back into fishing, mostly wet flies. I like Cortland stuff, and these seemed unique. Plus, I am a bit of an anglophile.
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The reel is a multiplier, 2 2/3:1 .
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The action is different. When power is applied you can feel it load lower down near the butt, and when the cast is stopped the bamboo power "unsprings" flowing up the rod to propel the line forward. Works really well when fished with a 6wt Sylk and a cast of flies.
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Perfect water to fish softhackles on the swing. Such a pleasant and relaxing way to fish.
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Something about fish on bamboo that other materials can't match, although my Steffen is really close. It's probably more fun to cast.
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Fun morning, too bad I had to find something else to do.
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Tom Butler

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Cortland imported bamboo rods made by Sharps of England in the 1970s. My friend had an 8 1/2' for a 7 wt line that he used for SRC in late summer and the fall.
I think @Dave Westburg had mentioned that, and I've seen it since, thxs.
Online reviews are really mixed. Some folks dislike the action. It was a change from the ESN rod this morning, that's for sure, but just took a few minutes to adjust. What I really like is the fact that you can just go through the motions, and with little effort and crisp stops the rod itself does all the work needed to cast the line.
 

@Dryflyphotography

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Tom, I started fly fishing when my new bride and I moved to Cornell (Ithaca, NY) forty years ago, and the town of Cortland NY was just a short drive east from Ithaca. I got my first fly fishing outfit from their outlet store and I'll always have a nostalgic soft spot for anything "Cortland". Wish I'd purchased that bamboo rod rather than the 8' seven weight buggy whip of a Cortland fiberglass rod. But at that time I was happy as could be with it. Love seeing your gear and the trout from a Walla Walla area stream.
 

Dave Westburg

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Tom, maybe you and I and Greg Armstrong can form a Sharpes Club. I have a 7'6" Sharpes 6 weight sold by Norm Thompson, a Sharpes Wilson International 8'3" 6 weight, a Sharpes Eighty Five 6 weight, a Sharpes Eighty Eight 6 weight, a Sharpes 10' 7 weight spliced rod and Sharpes 12' and 13' spliced spey rods.

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Cortland sold Sharpe's bamboo rods for a while. You can spot most of the Sharpes by the maroon wraps and golden ale color of the bamboo. Except that is for the Wilson International and Sharpes Eighty five which were jazzed up a bit by Dermot Wilson and Charles Ritz.

Was casting my Sharpes on the lawn today. The 7'6" to 8'8" sharpes are true 6 weights. Try to fish a 5 weight and they'll feel clubby. The 6 weight makes them flex. I think my favorite of the bunch is the Wilson International 8'3". The drawback of my sharpes is that they are two pieces so don't travel well.

One of these days I'll find a Sharpes spliced 8' 5 weight. The spliced Sharpes are great roll casting rods.

Hurrah for wet flies and bamboo!
 
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Dave Westburg

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A piece of trivia. When Roderick Haig-Brown died one of the rods in his collection was a 7' Sharpes Scotty Featherweight paired with a Hardy Princess 3 1/2 inch reel and a DT 5 fly line. Haig Brown talked about fishing a short rod on brushy estuary streams in Fishermans Fall. Wonder if this was the rod.
 
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Tom Butler

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Tom, maybe you and I and Greg Armstrong can form a Sharpes Club. I have a 7'6" Sharpes 6 weight sold by Norm Thompson, a Sharpes Wilson International 8'3" 6 weight, a Sharpes Eighty Five 6 weight, a Sharpes Eighty Eight 6 weight, a Sharpes 10' 7 weight spliced rod and Sharpes 12' and 13' spliced spey rods.

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Cortland sold Sharpe's bamboo rods for a while. You can spot most of the Sharpes by the maroon wraps and golden ale color of the bamboo. Except that is for the Wilson International and Sharpes Eighty five which were jazzed up a bit by Dermot Wilson and Charles Ritz.

Was casting my Sharpes on the lawn today. The 7'6" to 8'8" sharpes are true 6 weights. Try to fish a 5 weight and they'll feel clubby. The 6 weight makes them flex. I think my favorite of the bunch is the Wilson International 8'3". The drawback of the sharpes is that they are two pieces so don't travel well.

One of these days I'll find a Sharpes spliced 8' 5 weight. The spliced Sharpes are great roll casting rods.

Hurrah for wet flies and bamboo!
That rod on the front left looks awfully similar to mine. Is it about the same, 8' 4 1/4 oz, #6?
 

Dave Westburg

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That rod on the front left looks awfully similar to mine. Is it about the same, 8' 4 1/4 oz, #6?
It's a Sharpes Eighty-Eight. 8'8", staggered ferrule. 4.75 ounces. Says 5/6 weight although I consider it a 6 weight. Used it a couple weeks ago to fish wet flies and chironomids on an eastern Washington lake.
 

Tom Butler

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It's a Sharpes Eighty-Eight. 8'8", staggered ferrule. 4.75 ounces. Says 5/6 weight although I consider it a 6 weight. Used it a couple weeks ago to fish wet flies and chironomids on an eastern Washington lake.
OK, so I nerded out. Thanks for getting me going on this again.
I found a Scottie Featherweight on Spinzarods that's 8' 6wt and 4 3/8 oz. Mines 4 1/4, really close. Looks like a really similar impregnated rod. I also found this chart on the Hexrod taper archive. This graph is exactly what I see and feel when fishing this rod. It flexes and loads above the grip, energy is transferred through the "stiffer" middle, then the tip flexes again to unleash the power on the stop. Being a little heavy it takes a bit to get the lower 1/2 started, but not a lot of effort, and the cast naturally accelerates, the tip following, to your stop point. I notice many folks refer to it as a club. Fishing the taper as designed and letting the rod do the work I find it a pleasure to fish. Nice open loops for several softhackle flies.:)
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Dave Westburg

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I looked up your 8' rod in my Farlows and Sharpes catalogs for 67, 68, 69 and 70. The 67-69 catalogs call your 8' Sharpes featherweight a 4/5 weight while the 70 catalog calls the 8' Sharpes featherweight a 5/6 weight. All the catalogs list the rod as 4 1/4 ounces. Here are the catalog pages for 1967...
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1968...

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1969...

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and 1970...

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Tom Butler

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I looked up your 8' rod in my Farlows and Sharpes catalogs for 67, 68, 69 and 70. The 67-69 catalogs call your 8' Sharpes featherweight a 4/5 weight while the 70 catalog calls the 8' Sharpes featherweight a 5/6 weight. All the catalogs list the rod as 4 1/4 ounces. Here are the catalog pages for 1967...
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Thank you so much for sharing that. I'd bet it is the '70 model line, rebranded for Cortland. It works better with a 6 than a 5 or a 7.
 

Greg Armstrong

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OK, so I nerded out. Thanks for getting me going on this again.
I found a Scottie Featherweight on Spinzarods that's 8' 6wt and 4 3/8 oz. Mines 4 1/4, really close. Looks like a really similar impregnated rod. I also found this chart on the Hexrod taper archive. This graph is exactly what I see and feel when fishing this rod. It flexes and loads above the grip, energy is transferred through the "stiffer" middle, then the tip flexes again to unleash the power on the stop. Being a little heavy it takes a bit to get the lower 1/2 started, but not a lot of effort, and the cast naturally accelerates, the tip following, to your stop point. I notice many folks refer to it as a club. Fishing the taper as designed and letting the rod do the work I find it a pleasure to fish. Nice open loops for several softhackle flies.:)
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I’m guessing that’s what I’ve seen referred to as a “parabolic” taper.
 

Tom Butler

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I’m guessing that’s what I’ve seen referred to as a “parabolic” taper.
From what I've recently read on classic fly rod forum and a few other places I believe that is correct.
From the site: Ernest Schwiebert, in "Trout Tackle - Part Two" writes that when Charles Ritz came to the U.S. in 1936 , he had Ed Payne build him the first American rod in the true parabolic action.
"Parabolic action means literally this: the working portion of the rod is the lower one-third, next to the grip. The middle one third acts as a lever, to deliver the power created by the lower rod, while the top one third imparts the power to the line. The upper and lower third do most of the bending during the cast. The middle third of the rod bends very little, since it functions as a lever."
This was the first bamboo I owned, but I'd fished others. Took me a while to pick up what was going on with the rod. I had to change my stroke and timing a bit. Focus on feeling the lower rod load, not the tip, and longer pauses. Then I started to learn more about them, and now it's like, oh, that makes sense. The action is quite different than my Leonard 66H (8' 5/6 w/ slightly swelled butt), which is a progressive action like most modern rods, loading from the tip down.
 
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