Beaver expansion into Arctic

nomlasder

nomlasder

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I've been reading a few news stories over the past couple years about the expansion of beaver populations into Arctic regions. Due to climate change the northern regions have warmed up enough to provide new habitat.

The long term effect is unknown. But personally think this is good. Providing new rearing ponds for fish and water fowl, and erosion control for thawing permafrost.

Others look at this as an invasive species.

What are your thoughts
 
nomlasder said:
I've been reading a few news stories over the past couple years about the expansion of beaver populations into Arctic regions. Due to climate change the northern regions have warmed up enough to provide new habitat.

The long term effect is unknown. But personally think this is good. Providing new rearing ponds for fish and water fowl, and erosion control for thawing permafrost.

Others look at this as an invasive species.

What are your thoughts
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There’s all kinds of wacky shit happening in the arctic due to climate change related things and northward expansion of beavers is not one I personally find super concerning, but there will be so many unanticipated interactions, I hesitate to make any calls as to truly good, bad or indifferent on the beavers moving north.
www.hcn.org

Alaska’s Arctic waterways are turning orange, threatening drinking water

Scientists think climate change may be the culprit.
www.hcn.org www.hcn.org
 
Probably not a new phenomenon, considering the earth’s natural cyclical climate shifting nature. Greenland will be green once again…then back to ice.
But, not so you or I will notice anytime soon. 😉
 
Not invasive if it is occurring "naturally", ie, not the result of humans transporting a species to a new place. They appear to be following the march of woody plants, shrubbery and willows further north. Ponds created have both positive and negative impacts, the negative being the added release of methane. There is evidence this has all happened before, with trees as far north as Ellesmere Island, and believe me, that's far north, when I was there, not a tree in sight for a thousand miles. The issue is more the accelerated pace of change, will it get so fast as to create positive feedback loops that will take temperatures beyond what is habitable?
 
Matt B said:
No, that’s the point. People are noticing things.
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You people are “just now noticing things”??
BS

It’s been noticed…it’s been recorded by the earth and people…for quite some time.

Nothing to see here…move along…not a news flash. 😉
 
Canuck from Kansas said:
Not invasive if it is occurring "naturally", ie, not the result of humans transporting a species to a new place. They appear to be following the march of woody plants, shrubbery and willows further north. Ponds created have both positive and negative impacts, the negative being the added release of methane. There is evidence this has all happened before, with trees as far north as Ellesmere Island, and believe me, that's far north, when I was there, not a tree in sight for a thousand miles. The issue is more the accelerated pace of change, will it get so fast as to create positive feedback loops that will take temperatures beyond what is habitable?
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Those plant and animal species (humans being one of) that are adaptable…will inhabit the lands. 😁
 
FinLuver said:
You people are “just now noticing things”??
BS

It’s been noticed…it’s been recorded by the earth and people…for quite some time.

Nothing to see here…move along…not a news flash. 😉
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FinLuver said:
Probably not a new phenomenon, considering the earth’s natural cyclical climate shifting nature. Greenland will be green once again…then back to ice.
But, not so you or I will notice anytime soon. 😉
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Which is it, noticing or not noticing? You wrote both.

News Flash: starting your reply with the phrase “you people” is not the best way to encourage listening or engagement
 
"Polar bears and brown bears have been mating in Russia and producing hybrid cubs that are more resilient to climate change. Brown bears are known to be more suited to warmer temperatures than polar bears, as they do not rely so heavily on sea-ice for hunting like their polar bear relatives. These hybrid bears have a mostly white coat, with a brownish hue and a nose that is a cross between a polar bear and a brown or grizzly bear. "
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This thread is missing something......




Wolves.....


And....




Atlantic Salmon



...perhaps they will follow the beaver?
 
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