DoesItFloat
Life of the Party
I get the excitement behind whitewater kayaking, but this doesn't even look slightly fun.
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I get the excitement behind whitewater kayaking, but this doesn't even look slightly fun.
And if they get in trouble, they are impacting resources that are stretched thin.
BriGuy
Life of the Party
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Another Darwin Award candidate taking the water route. If they survive I'm sure they'll be going over waterfalls next.- What doesn't kill them seems to inspire them to try harder. 
SpeyrodGB
Life of the Party
That is just brutal.
Photos: Historic flooding devastates Red Lodge and surrounding region
Historic flooding devastates Red Lodge and surrounding region on Tuesday.
Old406Kid
Legend
A different Rock Creek and it's branches.
FinLuver
Native Oregonian…1846
This looks like a normal street in my home town…and it didn’t take a natural disaster to let it get that way. Just Say’n.
swimmy
An honest tune with a lingering lead
This flood has now redefined high water mark and I'm curious how this will affect our stream access laws. One in particular will be the wade section on the Upper Madison.
The land owners below Three Dollar Bridge on the south side of the river have signs posted that if you are standing in the vegetation, you are trespassing. Some are kind of dicks about it. I've never gotten any confirmation by the game warden or the fly shops. Most will simply tell you keep your feet wet just to be safe.
With the higher flows, we now we have water burping over into the vegetation. Feels like those banks are now fair game and I'd love to tell one of those pricks to fuck off. They have been active in trying to shut down floating in that section in an attempt to control access for themselves.
Just to give you a better idea, here is a photo of the type bank I'm referring to.
The land owners below Three Dollar Bridge on the south side of the river have signs posted that if you are standing in the vegetation, you are trespassing. Some are kind of dicks about it. I've never gotten any confirmation by the game warden or the fly shops. Most will simply tell you keep your feet wet just to be safe.
With the higher flows, we now we have water burping over into the vegetation. Feels like those banks are now fair game and I'd love to tell one of those pricks to fuck off. They have been active in trying to shut down floating in that section in an attempt to control access for themselves.
Just to give you a better idea, here is a photo of the type bank I'm referring to.
creekx
not crate trained
I think they use the term “normal” high water mark, which makes it a little squishy. But yes, F them.This flood has now redefined high water mark and I'm curious how this will affect our stream access laws. One in particular will be the wade section on the Upper Madison.
The land owners below Three Dollar Bridge on the south side of the river have signs posted that if you are standing in the vegetation, you are trespassing. Some are kind of dicks about it. I've never gotten any confirmation by the game warden or the fly shops. Most will simply tell you keep your feet wet just to be safe.
With the higher flows, we now we have water burping over into the vegetation. Feels like those banks are now fair game and I'd love to tell one of those pricks to fuck off. They have been active in trying to shut down floating in that section in an attempt to control access for themselves.
Just to give you a better idea, here is a photo of the type bank I'm referring to.
If they're trying to shut down floating, then yes, F them. If they just don't want you setting foot on their land without permission, then I get that. They paid for it (dearly), they pay taxes on it, and some folks leave trash and trash the vegetation. Having been a land owner, I can sympathize - respect private property!
cheers
cheers
That’s kind of like wanting to go over Niagara Falls in a barrel!
Paige
Wishing I was fishing the Sauk
This flood has now redefined high water mark and I'm curious how this will affect our stream access laws. One in particular will be the wade section on the Upper Madison.
The land owners below Three Dollar Bridge on the south side of the river have signs posted that if you are standing in the vegetation, you are trespassing. Some are kind of dicks about it. I've never gotten any confirmation by the game warden or the fly shops. Most will simply tell you keep your feet wet just to be safe.
With the higher flows, we now we have water burping over into the vegetation. Feels like those banks are now fair game and I'd love to tell one of those pricks to fuck off. They have been active in trying to shut down floating in that section in an attempt to control access for themselves.
Just to give you a better idea, here is a photo of the type bank I'm referring to.
The high water mark would allow you to walk all over that bank and I'm willing to bet to the top.
I am a river front property owner so, fuck em!
swimmy
An honest tune with a lingering lead
When the committee met to look at ways to limit overcrowding on the Madison, one of their (the landowners) proposals was to eliminate floating in the wade section. However there are certain sections in this stretch that are only accessible by boat w/o trespassing due to some high banks and cliff walls. So essentially it would've privatized those sections of the river for a few landowners. It got shot down but it gave you a peak into their intentions.
Totally. But is that their property? That is the question that no one has been able to answer.
And now some of those banks are underwater so it would be reasonable to assume that they are below high water mark and fair game.
Have you ever been to the Wade Section on the Upper Madison? If not, you should come visit sometime. I'd be happy to show you around. It holds a dear place for many fly fishers and for the amount of traffic it gets, there is very little to zero garbage left behind. Every once and a while I will see a little tippet or something but unlike other states we all do a pretty good job of taking care of our shit here. This applies to pretty much every trout stream in the state actually.
The exception would be for the houses and bridges seen floating down our rivers the past few days but that is a little different.
From the MT FWP brochure on the Montana Stream Access Law:This flood has now redefined high water mark and I'm curious how this will affect our stream access laws. One in particular will be the wade section on the Upper Madison.
The land owners below Three Dollar Bridge on the south side of the river have signs posted that if you are standing in the vegetation, you are trespassing. Some are kind of dicks about it. I've never gotten any confirmation by the game warden or the fly shops. Most will simply tell you keep your feet wet just to be safe.
With the higher flows, we now we have water burping over into the vegetation. Feels like those banks are now fair game and I'd love to tell one of those pricks to fuck off. They have been active in trying to shut down floating in that section in an attempt to control access for themselves.
Just to give you a better idea, here is a photo of the type bank I'm referring to.
"Ordinary high-water mark means the line that water impresses on land by covering it for sufficient time to cause different characteristics below the line, such as deprivation of the soil of substantially all its terrestrial vegetation and destruction of its value for agricultural vegetation. Flood plains next to streams are considered to be above the ordinary high-water mark, and are not open for recreation without permission."
@swimmy raised a good point. In all probability, the ordinary high-water will have changed in places. but just because a section of bank flooded doesn't necessarily mean it changes the "ordinary high-water mark". I tried to go through some photos I have on the Madison (different section) to illustrate the reality of what's to come.
The entire area in the following image floods (ice jams) every winter. All the vegetation is covered (flooded) with ice.
Where there is little or no vegetation adjacent to the river defines the "ordinary high water mark". Areas above that, even though they might flood at times is not.
Well, as to the phalli landowners along the upper Madison who try and abuse the Montana Stream Access Law through extreme interpretations of the law, send them one of these with a copy of the law. I am sure they will appreciate it.
The Dick spinner would just compliment the truck balls they have on there jacked up trucks!
