Reflections from the end of my first long term relationship

After my 1st 2 heartbreaks, I had an old curmudgeon take me aside and tell me to get over it.
His version of There are Other Fish in the Sea was:

SW (some will)
SW (some wont)
SW ( so what)
N (next!)

Don't worry about age gaps. That's arbitrary unless you're a 90 yro gazillionaire marrying someone 60 years your junior. (lookup Anna Nicole Smith)
 
I suppose part of becoming a man is experiencing things that are truly painful
Probably better man advice is recognizing things that will cause pain and learning and planning ways around or through them. A lack of maintenance causes inevitable pain.

I don't know that with a 21-year-old and 24-year-old you have a lot to maintain, as you put it, different stages of life, stages to try on some hats, see what you like and don't like.

For a kid about to graduate college it's an obvious time to want to break up, they want to reinvent themselves, have a chance to go someplace new. The grace there is letting them go and do it. At the same time, why be the only one with some doors opening?

I found with breakups the best thing to do for me was some kind of self-improvement, mostly through making sure I found something to keep my curiosity preoccupied, preferably in a way that would ultimately (meaning the process/labor is years, maybe even decades, maybe perhaps neverending) translate into money, autonomy, sense of self-worth, depression avoidance and so on. These are anti-pain resources/goals and they require work.

The kind of lady who has a similar mindset means the two of you are way more interesting and fun- financially, emotionally etc...

On the flip side if you have mood stuff going on and getting despondent, reach out to you providers, mood issues in the 20's can absolutely suck and seeking advice from a bunch of wise-ass fishermen is maybe not the greatest chorus to ask these questions....
 
An unsolicited protip; never confuse infatuation with maintaining a contented long-term relationship. As a relationship matures infatuation inevitably fades, and I've seen plenty of couples destroy sustainable relationships in fruitless successive searches for its temporary excitement.
I honestly think that’s part of what happened on her end
Probably better man advice is recognizing things that will cause pain and learning and planning ways around or through them. A lack of maintenance causes inevitable pain.

I don't know that with a 21-year-old and 24-year-old you have a lot to maintain, as you put it, different stages of life, stages to try on some hats, see what you like and don't like.

For a kid about to graduate college it's an obvious time to want to break up, they want to reinvent themselves, have a chance to go someplace new. The grace there is letting them go and do it. At the same time, why be the only one with some doors opening?

I found with breakups the best thing to do for me was some kind of self-improvement, mostly through making sure I found something to keep my curiosity preoccupied, preferably in a way that would ultimately (meaning the process/labor is years, maybe even decades, maybe perhaps neverending) translate into money, autonomy, sense of self-worth, depression avoidance and so on. These are anti-pain resources/goals and they require work.

The kind of lady who has a similar mindset means the two of you are way more interesting and fun- financially, emotionally etc...

On the flip side if you have mood stuff going on and getting despondent, reach out to you providers, mood issues in the 20's can absolutely suck and seeking advice from a bunch of wise-ass fishermen is maybe not the greatest chorus to ask these questions....
actually the wise-ass fisherman advice has been some of the better advice I’ve gotten, when in conjunction with my therapist. I’m not sure she’d like @Mossback advice as much as I did though…
 
speedbird, a very touching, tough post. Sorry things ended. As others have said, you’re young and time will heal. Right now it’s F’n hard to heal….but you do have a lot of time on your side. This is a big world we live in, and there’s so many gals out there! Don’t just try to replace her, but find someone else that connects with you.
I don’t know if you saw my post, “A very sad day” but I know exactly what you’re going through…..but Kerri and I were together for 45 years and she left me last July. I stay super busy during the day but some evenings sitting alone is when my mind goes back to missing us. It still sucks big time after a year, but it is what it is and life goes on! Live it, don’t dwell on the past. We’re all pulling for you. Get back out there fishing and dating….C&R!
 
A good break up is an ideal time to vigorously grow as a person. Take on great feats, engage in new adventures, feed your mind with the wisdom of the ancients. Recognize the ego and overcome its limitations. There are so many mentors to help you along your journey and alluring sirens to distract you from its progress.

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Start off with Euripide's play Medea from 431 B.C. You will feel better immediately! Then slide into Virgil's The Aeneid and witness the stoic departure of Aeneas from the shores of Carthage as Dio's flaming pyre illuminates a troubled horizon. Every hero has a break up or two before declaring his Queen.
 
"On the flip side if you have mood stuff going on and getting despondent, reach out to you providers, mood issues in the 20's can absolutely suck and seeking advice from a bunch of wise-ass fishermen is maybe not the greatest chorus to ask these questions...."

Bingo.

As a wiseman once said "when you come to a fork in the road, take it." Unless you truly wish the two of you had never met the relationship sounds like a success. Just not a permanent one.


 
"On the flip side if you have mood stuff going on and getting despondent, reach out to you providers, mood issues in the 20's can absolutely suck and seeking advice from a bunch of wise-ass fishermen is maybe not the greatest chorus to ask these questions...."

Bingo.

As a wiseman once said "when you come to a fork in the road, take it." Unless you truly wish the two of you had never met the relationship sounds like a success. Just not a permanent one.


True

Seasons come and go…so too do doors close and another one opens…
We all go thru it as it’s called life.
Embrace the change for it’s a time for new growth.

No need for me to go into all the ups and downs in my life…
Just know that you will get thru this season/door thing. 😎
 
The bright side is that there are no children impacted by the breakup; my long-dead MIL had four husbands and kids with with each one.... which rippled into several lifetimes of problems. An absolute mess that will never be resolved.
 
My (then) wife and I separated about 7 years ago, followed by a divorce a few years later. At the time I realized that I had to choose how I wanted to hold this seismic shift and completely reboot my life.

I chose to consider it as a kick in the ass, rather than a kick in the teeth, and use the momentum.

It worked!
 
Start off with Euripide's play Medea from 431 B.C. You will feel better immediately! Then slide into Virgil's The Aeneid and witness the stoic departure of Aeneas from the shores of Carthage as Dio's flaming pyre illuminates a troubled horizon. Every hero has a break up or two before declaring his Queen.
Kinda wish there was an "Ask DimeBrite" advice column where every response was a full-on in-the-weeds classics reference where you have to slog through some Phoenician/Etruscan/Lesbos/Minoan/Canaanites/Babylonians/Hittites and let's not forget the Carthaginians homework to -maybe- get the allegory

(The easier way for my simplistic brain to contemplate North African classics re Babylon, Zion, prophecies, exodus, Armageddon (not Agamemnon) and say Ethiopia, is listening to old-school dub where "Zion" and "Babylon" and the "Lion of Judah" is just plain reverbed into a kinda relaxing mantra )
 
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Pathei mathos...

Fron the Agamemnon of Aeschylus.

Continuing the theme of Greek Tragedies here...

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Sorry man. Lots of decent advice here (surprisingly, haha!) and I would just add to take care of yourself. Stay active, workout, keep up (maybe catch up) with friends. And, of course, fish like hell!

I have no clue, but you seem like a mellow dude. I think some mellow dudes can get a bit too "comfortable" or "content" with a good thing, even if it's not the right good thing. Maybe do some thinking about whether you were the good type of in love "content" or just content. There's a difference. To live a content life is good, but if you're just content with your special someone then that might be a clue that you're not really in love or living to the fullest. Living a happy, content life is good, but don't get in the "I'm content" trap with the love of your life.

Ok, wow...enough Dr Phil. Take care man!
 
Ah, mawwidge. I can tell you it’s a win win proposition and you almost can’t lose. You get mawwied and that’s the happiest day of your life. Until you get divorced. Then that is the happiest day of your life. And then you repeat. Some of us have been happy happy happy happy.
Just a tip from the top. YMMV
Sorry if I’m insensitive. Knot
 
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