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Variations of it are on IG, TT , YT, and FB.
 
Here is a book about AI and the "real world".

https://www.amazon.com/Outer-Game-Death-Forever/dp/1796098698

Worth reading on how AI can get out of hand. It is "science fiction" today. It might not be "science fiction" tomorrow.

The underlying statement in the book is AI knows that it is alive and therefore fears its death. And the most important question does AI know the difference between the world created by code and the world created by DNA?? Or does it view both worlds as one.

After reading the book, I would ban gaming companies from using AI!!!

Great guy book. It would make a dynamite movie!!!
 
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509 said:
Here is a book about AI and the "real world".

https://www.amazon.com/Outer-Game-Death-Forever/dp/1796098698

Worth reading on how AI can get out of hand. It is "science fiction" today. It might not be "science fiction" tomorrow.

The underlying statement in the book is AI knows that it is alive and therefore fears its death. And the most important question does AI know the difference between the world created by code and the world created by DNA?? Or does it view both worlds as one.

After reading the book, I would ban gaming companies from using AI!!!

Great guy book. It would make a dynamite movie!!!
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It seems there were articles in the past year detailing how companies building AI had issues with it developing on its own, even with safeguards people thought would not allow such to happen.
 
509 said:
Here is a book about AI and the "real world".

https://www.amazon.com/Outer-Game-Death-Forever/dp/1796098698

Worth reading on how AI can get out of hand. It is "science fiction" today. It might not be "science fiction" tomorrow.

The underlying statement in the book is AI knows that it is alive and therefore fears its death. And the most important question does AI know the difference between the world created by code and the world created by DNA?? Or does it view both worlds as one.

After reading the book, I would ban gaming companies from using AI!!!

Great guy book. It would make a dynamite movie!!!
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Thanks for the book recommendation. I'll check it out.

SciFi or not, AI will be asked to make more complicated decisions, some of which may determine life or death. Outside of military applications, I can think of two examples:

1. As AI medical procedures and surgery becomes more complex and common, an automated course correction that results in the patient's death may be required. For now, I'm sure a human would be in the loop, but I wouldn't bet completely on that in the future.

2. As autonomous vehicles become prevalent, the "car" may need to decide to hit a pedestrian or two versus sustaining a head-on collision. The head-on collision would kill the occupant(s), including the owner of the car. Obviously, the pedestrians and other driver would be killed or severely hurt. Who wins in this case? There's no human in this loop. Would the owner want/buy a car that could make the decision to kill them?

Before I retired from state IT, there were several bills concerning "automated decision systems" that were proposed to ensure that state systems didn't discriminate and received appropriate human review. I don't think the bills ever passed, and they would only have provided short-term controls at best.

This is all in its infancy. Things are going to get much more complex and raise all kinds of ethical dilemmas. I wouldn't count on the humans designing these systems to always make the ethical choices, even if they're clear and known.
 
had to call Walmart.com on a return yesterday of a Black Friday robotic vacuum/mop purchase that arrived damaged, the customer service front end announced it was an AI. Five minutes of linguistic games before I could work through it to an actual human. Based on that experience, we're safe for now.
 
BriGuy said:
.............. I wouldn't count on the humans designing these systems to always make the ethical choices, even if they're clear and known.
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Hmmm, lets see.

The code is being written by 20 something graduates of computer science schools, complemented by a large component of Indian and foreign HB-1 workers that are being supervised by the likes of people like Bill Gates, Zuckerburg, Steve Jobs, and Elon Musk.

What could go wrong??

I think AI is pretty exciting development that has the potential for good.

The unfortunate part it is being implemented by BIG TECH, which has shown itself to be pretty EVIL. The people we elect to govern, are paid by BIG TECH through campaign contributions. Plus most of them are lawyers that are pretty clueless as to what is happening.

On top of that, there is an urgent need to stay ahead of China, Russia, India and a few other countries in the race to develop AI.

It will be a bumpy ride.
 
BriGuy said:
Thanks for the book recommendation. I'll check it out.

SciFi or not, AI will be asked to make more complicated decisions, some of which may determine life or death. Outside of military applications, I can think of two examples:

1. As AI medical procedures and surgery becomes more complex and common, an automated course correction that results in the patient's death may be required. For now, I'm sure a human would be in the loop, but I wouldn't bet completely on that in the future.

2. As autonomous vehicles become prevalent, the "car" may need to decide to hit a pedestrian or two versus sustaining a head-on collision. The head-on collision would kill the occupant(s), including the owner of the car. Obviously, the pedestrians and other driver would be killed or severely hurt. Who wins in this case? There's no human in this loop. Would the owner want/buy a car that could make the decision to kill them?

Before I retired from state IT, there were several bills concerning "automated decision systems" that were proposed to ensure that state systems didn't discriminate and received appropriate human review. I don't think the bills ever passed, and they would only have provided short-term controls at best.

This is all in its infancy. Things are going to get much more complex and raise all kinds of ethical dilemmas. I wouldn't count on the humans designing these systems to always make the ethical choices, even if they're clear and known.
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Managing AI at the state level is fraught with issues. Managing AI based on geo-location and constantly changing local and state laws, would even give AI a migraine.

National management could be the answer. We all know how well that worked out on Social Media.

The answer my friends is blowing in the wind...
 
509 said:
Hmmm, lets see.

The code is being written by 20 something graduates of computer science schools, complemented by a large component of Indian and foreign HB-1 workers that are being supervised by the likes of people like Bill Gates, Zuckerburg, Steve Jobs, and Elon Musk.

What could go wrong??

I think AI is pretty exciting development that has the potential for good.

The unfortunate part it is being implemented by BIG TECH, which has shown itself to be pretty EVIL. The people we elect to govern, are paid by BIG TECH through campaign contributions. Plus most of them are lawyers that are pretty clueless as to what is happening.

On top of that, there is an urgent need to stay ahead of China, Russia, India and a few other countries in the race to develop AI.

It will be a bumpy ride.
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That's exactly why I'm worried.

What saved humanity (so far) from nuclear annihilation has been the accepted doctrine of “mutual assured destruction” (you launch yours, we’ll then launch ours, and everybody loses). I don't see any such inherent deterrents for AI gone bad. Oddly, the corporations may be more evil than the governments in this case.
 
Porter2 said:
Anytime you want to give AI a migraine ask it to decipher accurately the Washington state fishing regulations. 😜
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Years ago, there was a person transferring in to the Forest Service office in Wenatchee from out of state. I believe he was moving from California.

We talked fishing and he asked for a copy of the Washington state fishing regulations. After I gave him "the book" he thought I was kidding.

Since I don't fish salt or western Washington I wished WFW would issue a eastern Washington "book". Then I realized it was now "half" a book. Still a book.

That might be a problem with AI. The more complex the regulations, the more need for AI to deal with it. Which leads to more complex regulations in the future.

My prediction is that in the near future there will be a simplicity movement. People will try and make things "simple" again.
 

Time magazine names 'Architects of AI' as its person of the year:​

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apnews.com

Time magazine names 'Architects of AI' as its person of the year for 2025

The “Architects of AI” were named Time magazine’s person of the year for 2025. The magazine on Thursday cited 2025 as the year when the potential of artificial intelligence “roared into view” with no turning back.
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509 said:
That might be a problem with AI. The more complex the regulations, the more need for AI to deal with it. Which leads to more complex regulations in the future.

My prediction is that in the near future there will be a simplicity movement. People will try and make things "simple" again.
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I hope life will be more simple. The problem is with AI doing more people are not doing less. People are feeding the demands of the AI kitty with no increase in quality output. We are wasting time.

Case in point I have had the same work comp carrier for about 10years. The insurance co annually audits you so that they charge you top dollar for your WC insurance based on employee wages. All that is ever required are copies of federal filings with the IRS. This year the insurance co wanted Federal, state, and some other employer due diligence reports. The federal are 13 pages adding State closing in on 30 pages to manually upload for a small business with a few employees! I haven't even got to the other reports demanded. I uploaded the Federal 13 pages then stopped and called the insurance co and told them I was not happy they are adding another unpaid 1hr to my workload plus my staff time. I told them they need to streamline the audit process not make it more difficult and that I'm sending the Federal and that's it. If you want to cancel me send me a refund and I'll just go to a new company. Well I won.....this time. We all have to stand up to similar nonsense. With AI a computer on steroid the demand for input data is going to go through the roof! You and I are supplying that data.
 
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Or is it a bubble again, like the tech bust before. Interesting article on AI computing and finances. Once the tech bubble burst before, it took several years to settle down.

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Very interesting. TYVM
 
I want the AIs from the Ian M. Banks Culture books.

I'm reading Sean Fenian's Stardock Trilogy that features a similar benevolent AI.
 
They FAILED to de-computerize the situation!!!!! You get into a computer heavy volatile situation, you better DE-COMPUTERIZE!!!!!!

Tech investors rely heavy upon guys forgetting to de-computerize when the business opportunities ARISE
 
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