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Kirby Smart when asked about Brian Kelly’s firing.
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"I know it's high expectations," he said. "I coached at LSU, and a guy once told me, ‘That office you’re in, that's not your office. You're borrowing it.' And I knew right then, if you didn't win, you wouldn't be there long."
 
If you are a college coach, you want to get hired by Scott Woodward.
He is responsible for $130 million in buyouts.
Jimbo Fisher for $76 million at Texas A & M and $54 million for Brian Kelly at LSU.
I’m glad he didn’t do that when he was at the UW, though he did hire Chris Petersen.
Being an unemployed college coach is becoming a pretty lucrative gig. 😂
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Little was learned from the Charlie Weis debacle at Notre Dame. His payoff was only $19 million, paltry by today's standards but shocking then and it took ND six years to pay him off. Kelly was never a great coach and couldn't win the big games. In addition he was a whiner and a crybaby and his fake Cajun accent was puke inducing. I hope he takes his $54 million and disappears but it wouldn't surprise me if some athletic director somewhere tries to put lipstick on that pig again.
 
Just not enjoying the new schedule as much. I like the PAC 10 season and midday kickoffs. Like to see players stay for four years and grow. I was happy with radio and a couple TV games. The money seems to be spoiling it for me. These should be learning institutions, not the NFL minors.
 
Just not enjoying the new schedule as much. I like the PAC 10 season and midday kickoffs. Like to see players stay for four years and grow. I was happy with radio and a couple TV games. The money seems to be spoiling it for me. These should be learning institutions, not the NFL minors.

Tom,
I totally get it. Unfortunately the genie is out of bottle and there is no turning back. It will never be again like it used to be.
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UW is becoming a step stone program. Coach Fisch’s name is appearing way too much in possible candidates for these upper tier programs that have fired their coaches this year….
 
UW is becoming a step stone program. Coach Fisch’s name is appearing way too much in possible candidates for these upper tier programs that have fired their coaches this year….

Other then maybe UCLA, I don’t see the fan bases of places like Florida getting very excited about hiring a sub .500 head coach, unless you are looking for some type of rebellion or insurrection on the athletic department.
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Well he’s 500 for a reason. Took over a horrible Arizona program went 1-11 his first year to 10-3 his third year. I think UW has improved quite a bit and am actually surprised at how they are playing. I thought 5-6 wins would be max this year. He has an impressive resume in both college and the nfl. We’ll see. I have a feeling he is on several schools radar.
 
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Well he’s 500 for a reason. Took over a horrible Arizona program went 1-11 his first year to 10-3 his third year. I think UW has improved quite a bit and am actually surprised at how they are playing. I thought 5-6 wins would be max this year. He has an impressive resume in both college and the nfl. We’ll see. I have a feeling he is on several schools radar.

True, but look at Indiana’s coach. It certainly didn’t take him three years to turn things around there and they’d been a pretty morbid program.

In other news, if you have YouTube TV, don’t plan on watching any games on ABC or ESPN tomorrow.
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The story of Vanderbilt's success in football this year is one of most striking examples of the changed world of NIL and paid college players. Vandy has been a perennial Southeastern Conference cellar-dweller. They haven't been above 0.500 in the conference since 2012 and the last time before that was 1982. One wonders who is bankrolling Vanderbilt's NIL stash (aka, the Anchor Impact Collective) this year? They are now #9 in the country (7-1) and 3-1 in the conference (albeit getting their asses handed to them by Texas so far today [Edit, great second-half comeback by Vandy]). They may be the best current example in college sports of "if you pay them, they will come". Essentially, big-time college sports is like a fantasy league where whomever has the biggest budget (and spends it the wisest) has the best chance of winning all the marbles. Schools with less money become "developmental programs" for their wealthier brethren who will raid their best talent in the next portal. The coaches have had no "loyalty" to their university employers since forever, and now players have the same freedom to bolt for greener pastures = unfettered capitalism. Why are "academic" institutions engaged in running professional sport teams?
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As a Texas alum, I am often ashamed of the obscene wealth of talent and relative lack of success, but I like what I'm seeing today. Maybe Sark can coach after all, because this team has grown a ton since the Florida debacle. His teams have shown well in all but the very biggest of big games in recent years.

That said, the SEC is more of a meat grinder than ever (in no small part due to the $ thing @Cabezon mentioned above), and I fully expect my alma mater to lose another game or two and officially fall out of playoff contention.

I completely agree college football was more fun to watch before it became NFL, Jr.
 
As a Texas alum, I am often ashamed of the obscene wealth of talent and relative lack of success, but I like what I'm seeing today. Maybe Sark can coach after all, because this team has grown a ton since the Florida debacle. His teams have shown well in all but the very biggest of big games in recent years.

That said, the SEC is more of a meat grinder than ever (in no small part due to the $ thing @Cabezon mentioned above), and I fully expect my alma mater to lose another game or two and officially fall out of playoff contention.

I completely agree college football was more fun to watch before it became NFL, Jr.
Texas may be a beneficiary of the expanded 12-team playoff system. Selection is based entirely on rankings this year. A downside of the NIL era is that the core of a team may consist entirely of new players, quality players that have never played with each other. This inexperience and lack of cohesion may lead to early season losses. But with proper coaching and a solid core of talent, a team, such as Texas, may gel and develop into a force as the season develops. [Or a talent-rich team may disintegrate after tough early season losses, see Penn State = "paper lions"]. Ideally, you would like the hottest, most competitive teams to participate in the playoffs. But we've all seen a top-ranked team that sustains a late-season injury to a key player (perhaps in a conference championship game) still qualify for the playoffs due to their overall record, but they may only be a shadow of their quality when playing with all their top players. And a team that gets hot in the second half of the regular season may not be chosen because of their early-season losses.
In the opinion of some, qualifying for the playoffs should reflect your success over the whole regular season. For others, the playoffs should select the hottest teams at the end of the season. Often, but not always, the Venn diagram of those two groups substantially overlap, but not always.
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So now we can talk about the other thing that broke in college football as soon as the $ came into the picture.

Texas should have won that game by 20+ points, but again and again, the referees made calls that enabled Vanderbilt to beat the point spread (Texas by 3.5). That should upset you if you are any kind of fan of college football, because eventually, your team will get screwed to save Vegas. "Book it."
 
Good luck Cougs and Beavers in today’s PAC 12 championship game.
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Go Coogs !!!

😁

Another match up in 3 weeks
 
The story of Vanderbilt's success in football this year is one of most striking examples of the changed world of NIL and paid college players. Vandy has been a perennial Southeastern Conference cellar-dweller. They haven't been above 0.500 in the conference since 2012 and the last time before that was 1982. One wonders who is bankrolling Vanderbilt's NIL stash (aka, the Anchor Impact Collective) this year? They are now #9 in the country (7-1) and 3-1 in the conference (albeit getting their asses handed to them by Texas so far today [Edit, great second-half comeback by Vandy]). They may be the best current example in college sports of "if you pay them, they will come". Essentially, big-time college sports is like a fantasy league where whomever has the biggest budget (and spends it the wisest) has the best chance of winning all the marbles. Schools with less money become "developmental programs" for their wealthier brethren who will raid their best talent in the next portal. The coaches have had no "loyalty" to their university employers since forever, and now players have the same freedom to bolt for greener pastures = unfettered capitalism. Why are "academic" institutions engaged in running professional sport teams?
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You can squarely put the blame for what college football has become on the NCAA.
They dragged their feet on paying players and here we are today. Had they been proactive, I think things would have been different. There is no going back now.
By them also dragging their feet, the chance of there ever being a NFL minor leagues outside of college ball is now pretty much gone. There is too much money now in college to go that route now in my opinion.
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I was rooting for Vandy, but they fell after an almost successful onside kick for a chance to tie and go to OT...Miami loses to the Ponies and most likely out of the CFP...
 
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