What weight rod do you recommend to beginners in the PNW? (2024 version)

Josh

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Just figured this would be an interesting check-in to hear some opinions.

For decades, the 9ft 5wt was the bog standard "first rod". I suspect that most of us started out with one. But I've long thought that even first rods should take into consideration what the beginner is going to be fishing for. Sure, a 5wt CAN do most everything. But there's a lot of fishing that it doesn't do nearly as well as a lighter or heavier rod. Even for someone who is just starting out. Honestly, I use a 5wt less than just about any other rod. But that's gonna depend a lot on what you fish for and where you do it.

So what do you recommend? Feel free to make different suggestions for different fishing types or PNW locations.
 
On the WA wet side, I don't bother to suggest a 5wt very often. I tend to drop down to a 4wt. Light enough to not be a huge hassle for cascade streams, fun on panfish, but still plenty able to handle stocker trout. It's my go-to for a "first rod" suggestion.

If I know that the beginner is focusing on bass or sea run cutts, I might suggest a 6wt. Sure, an 8wt might be a better bass rod, but a beginner is unlikely to be throwing giant wind resistant poppers. And the 6wt wouldn't be over the top if they wanted to try for some lake trout.

Now, if they are on the east side of WA or central/east OR, I'd probably stick with the 5wt suggestion given the amount of river trout they have access to. But even then, a 6wt might get a lot of work done and still give them some other fishing options.

And finally, if I know they are just going to be on little cascade streams, 3wt all day.
 
I still suggest. 9’ 5wt classic trout. If someone’s just getting ONE rod it’s versatile “enough”. Always a little under or over gunned, but that’s fine if they’re just a casual angler that will have an opportunity in most situations (if they’re fishing with me)
 
I think I’ve come to appreciate that having a just one all around rod is like asking a golfer what one all around golf club should I own.

I did start out with a 5 wt as my first rod.

I think for beginner casters a 4 or 5 weight would be my recommendation. A little easier to cast and feel the rod load up, and lighter weight.
 
Sam is right…..you can never have enough fly rods! The 9’ 5 wt will make a good back up/wet line rod when you get bit by the bug…..then shorter lighter line weight rods will follow. Or heavier wt rods for bigger fish…..
 
I think I’ve come to appreciate that having a just one all around rod is like asking a golfer what one all around golf club should I own.

I did start out with a 5 wt as my first rod.

I think for beginner casters a 4 or 5 weight would be my recommendation. A little easier to cast and feel the rod load up, and lighter weight.
Kinda like one boat to serve all of your needs?

My first rod was an 8 weight - obviously not any good for blue line creeks - for that I now have a 2 weight and a couple shorty bamboo rods. I fish 5 weights and a 6 weight for trout but am thinking about a switch rod (bobber)........... something I know nothing about.
 
I fish my original 9' 5 weight a lot. Caught lots of trout, bass, and warm water panfish with it. Have I been under-gunned? A few times but that is part of the fun of catching fish.

A 6 weight is preferable IMHO for windy conditions or for weighted flies but a 5 weight will be just fine with good casting techniques.

I am not up to speed on the latest rods. Is a 5 weight really a true 5 weight when a 6 weight line casts better?
 
On the WA wet side, I don't bother to suggest a 5wt very often. I tend to drop down to a 4wt. Light enough to not be a huge hassle for cascade streams, fun on panfish, but still plenty able to handle stocker trout. It's my go-to for a "first rod" suggestion.

If I know that the beginner is focusing on bass or sea run cutts, I might suggest a 6wt. Sure, an 8wt might be a better bass rod, but a beginner is unlikely to be throwing giant wind resistant poppers. And the 6wt wouldn't be over the top if they wanted to try for some lake trout.

Now, if they are on the east side of WA or central/east OR, I'd probably stick with the 5wt suggestion given the amount of river trout they have access to. But even then, a 6wt might get a lot of work done and still give them some other fishing options.

And finally, if I know they are just going to be on little cascade streams, 3wt all day.
Seems like good advice. I think for the Puget Sound / wet side area, if someone were just starting out and didn’t know what they wanted to do exactly, and wanted to try everything, I would recommend a six weight for max versatility. Then they could use it to try fishing the Sound and the bigger rivers, pinks and coho off the beaches and whatnot. A better all around bass rig, too, IMO.

My first rod was an 8’4” 4 weight. That was my only rod for a long time. I was living out east. When I moved here I was given a 9’ 6 weight and did a helluva lot with those two rods.
 
I’m probably one of the most intermediate fly fishers on this forum, (only fly fishing for about 10 years now) by quite a bit…I walked into Creekside in Issy and asked the same question…walked out with a Sage Accel 9’ 5wt with reel, line etc and proceeded to learn how to cast on YouTube.

I still have this rod, and use it as a backup to my two-piece 9’ 5wt Burkie that is my favorite dry fly rod now, but take and use the Accel whenever I travel by air (two piece rod tube is a bit long for air travel)…
 
Either a 5 wt. or 6 wt. will throw streamers or bass bugs. And either would still have the delicacy to fish chironomids or throw dry flies for trout. For a new fly fisher, a rod with more backbone would make the fight easier as well. I started with a very cheap Cabelas 4 pc. 6 weight. When I had a bit more money and was more committed, I added a 5 wt. Sage. I landed very nice bass with the former and even steelhead with the latter. Now, I have more rods than I can remember (true story, @Cowlitz Bottomfeeder reminded me that he had sold me a Beulah 6 wt. spey rod that I forget that I had)...
Steve
 
Late 70's in Seattle in the group I was mentored by a 9' 6wt was considered the standard rod for all things trout. Been fishing the Sage I was given back then for high school graduation a lot recently and it really is great for a wide range of trout size flies, fish sizes, different presentations and weather conditions.
 

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Oh Josh, I can't believe you'd start this shit up! First off, most of us did NOT start off with a 9' 5 wt unless we're your age or younger. Sheesh, damn kids nowadays anyway. In the days before 1980, or 1970, the single rod quiver was a 7 1/2' or 8' 6 wt in bamboo, followed by fiberglass in the same length and line weight. That would have been the all around trout and panfish rod recommendation in fly shops (what few there were) and sports shops, coast to coast. Then, with the advent of graphite rods in 1973 it took some figuring out that a longer rod could be just as practical in the same line weight. By 1980, Kaufmann's fly shop catalog was recommending a 9' 6 wt as a first rod and all around trout and panfish fly rod. I'll add that Orvis offered an 8' 3" 7 wt graphite rod they named the "All 'Rounder" for everything, trout, panfish, bass, and Atlantic salmon. What a morphadite rod that thing was.

By 1990 fly shops had become commonplace nationwide, fueled by the YUPPIE boom (young urban professionals) toting their VISA gold cards into shops everywhere. I add this because until around 1980, full service fly shops were a rarity, except in key locations like West Yellowstone and thereabouts. In those times of yore, outfitting one's self as a full fledged fly fisher required a fair amount of leg work. Meaning you'd go to one general sports shop for a set of Hodgeman or Marathon waders, another for a fly rod, and possibly yet somewhere else to find a fly reel other than a stamped aluminum cheapie or Pfueger Medalist. And then wander around looking for flies wherever you could find them. A lot of fly fishers took up fly tying just to secure a reliable source of flies. And fly tying materials were scrounged from many places, which made a store like Patrick's Fly Shop on Eastlake in Seattle such a gold mine. Patrick's originally sold only flies and tying materials, no rods, reels, or waders. This is why the good fly fishing waters were relatively uncrowded. It took a lot of gumption and resourcefulness to go fly fishing effectively. But the YUPPIE boom and VISA Gold cards changed all that. Full service fly shops proliferated. You could walk into the new fangled full service fly shop, lay your VISA Gold card on the counter, and walk out fully outfitted from head to toe as a NEWBY fly fisher before ever getting your first fly casting lesson. And fly rod companies went ape shit, meaning that by producing a bountiful supply of fly rods, fly rods became better than ever imaginable. So by about 1990, shop recommendations and popular demand settled on the 9' 5 wt graphite fly rod as the nearly universal introductory all around trout and panfish fly rod. Of course it didn't do everything. Still doesn't. But it does more things than any other single wt rod does. Ask the rod companies; their production receipts prove it. So in addition to fulfilling basic fly fishing needs, rod companies provide offerings for just about any specialized fly fishing application you can imagine. And some that you can't.

It is truly amazing to me. American affluence and credit created the environment for an industry to supply the Golden Age of fly fishing tackle. There now are almost no bad fly rods made because the competition drives the dregs into almost immediate obscurity. All this, by the way, is also why there is some other angler standing on a rock wherever on the planet you want to go fish in relative solitude for some restful alone time.

But now, as always, as anglers acquire more experience and more fly fishing interests, they acquire more fly rods in more lengths and line weights. And the rod companies thank us all for that.
 
Actually I remember 8’6” 7/8 being a popular rod in glass for the all everything pnw fly rod.

I would definetly go with a well rounded 6 weight for beginners. MHO.
 
Remember the Wright McGill Eagle Claw 7 1/2 foot fiberglass spin/fly rod? Nice on trips hiking the Cascade Crest Trail. But it did not cast well either as a spinning rod or fly rod. But it fit into our backpacks!
 
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7'6" eagle claw spin fly 7wt I think everything from coho bass and 6" creek trout started out with fly tyed on mono and stripped out on spin rod.
 
I started with 7'6" 5wt...
Still have it.
 
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