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It doesn’t seem likely, there have been very small runs consistently for a long time. It’s also notable that the even year pinks on the snohomish are very small fish. I have been up there where they spawn a few times and seen the average size at maybe a pound and a half. Unexpected compared to even year pinks spawning in the same place being 2 to 3 times as big.It sure would be interesting if even year pinks begin to have strong runs down here.
Really though, who knows what will happen. Things have changed out in the ocean in ways we don't really understand. Relationships and trends that used to correlate no longer do. Nobody expected the Puget Sound pinks to balloon to the multi millions but they did, and I don't think anyone has pinned a reason for that.It doesn’t seem likely, there have been very small runs consistently for a long time. It’s also notable that the even year pinks on the snohomish are very small fish. I have been up there where they spawn a few times and seen the average size at maybe a pound and a half. Unexpected compared to even year pinks spawning in the same place being 2 to 3 times as big.
Really though, who knows what will happen. Things have changed out in the ocean in ways we don't really understand. Relationships and trends that used to correlate no longer do. Nobody expected the Puget Sound pinks to balloon to the multi millions but they did, and I don't think anyone has pinned a reason for that.
I wonder if the PS even year pinks have a more frequent PS "resident" life history.Yes, things are certainly weird. Sockeye have also been going crazy - returns double the forecast in the Columbia, one of the lowest ever returns to Lake Washington. But if I was to hazard a wild guess at what controls the puget sound even year pink population, I would say that it’s predation, rather than ocean conditions. There simply are not enough fry produced to overwhelm the predator population like the odd year runs do. A few make it through, by staying in marginal habitat, and thus the runs stay small, with small fish. But that’s no more than idle speculation.
Were they also extra small like @Chucker 's observation on the Snohomish system? (I'm assuming on the Sky but there might be some on the Snoqualmie, why not)I have only seen even year pinks in the river doing spawners surveys. I have never caught one. They do seem extremely rare. I have seen them on the Nooksack and Skagit systems.
Were they also extra small like @Chucker 's observation on the Snohomish system? (I'm assuming on the Sky but there might be some on the Snoqualmie, why not)
Interesting. The estuary pinks down here that I've been catching the last couple runs have been a lot bigger than that on average. There was that one run some years back where they were real small, and the coho were, too. 2017?I haven’t seen enough to confidently claim an average size. I’d put them in the 2lbs range so pretty typical for a humpy in my experience.