You have every right to your opinion, and government has indeed done plenty to destroy trust. But I think this discussion continues to be civil and thoughtful.
Dept. of Ecology declares drought emergency for most of Washington state
- Thread starter RCF
- Start date
Flymph
Life of the Party
"seize" matters!
'I see that this discussion of drought in WA is degenerating into culture war flaming. Here, let toss in a few random unrelated culture war talking points to feed the flames.'
Sheesh.
While trust has to be earned, don't leave your common sense at the door.
Trust, but verify.
Probably gonna take a minute to verify all of that...
FinLuver
Native Oregonian…1846
Damn smarter than iPhones…foiled again.
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I’m not so sure his thoughts on water supply in the subject post are too valuable, though. The rivers he cited as having flows predicted to sustain through this Fall are not Westside Rivers. Only a few Westside rivers have managed reservoirs, and most of those are used to impound and export drinking water—not support flows for diversion and irrigation. And there are is a lot more irrigated Ag, a lot more interruptible water right holders, and a lot more over-appropriated basins with dwindling snowpacks over here than you might realize.
Cliff Mass is at it again! Taunting us about cool spring weather and mountain snow in late April and early May.
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This guy needs to be put in drought re-education camp
Substantial Late-Season Mountain Snow Ahead
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This guy needs to be put in drought re-education camp
Dustin Chromers
Legend
Cliff Mass is at it again! Taunting us about cool spring weather and mountain snow in late April and early May.
Substantial Late-Season Mountain Snow Ahead
This blog provides updated forecasts and comments on current weather or other topics
This guy needs to be put in drought re-education camp
Choose your climate Messiah.. But choose wisely. For the future of mankind depends on it and your eternal soul.
I think Mass is right that this late season snow is not that out of the ordinary. A more significant aspect of this snow is how much does it add to the seasonal accumulation total? It is that annual total that water managers have to estimate in order to decide how much water is available for reservoir refill for M&I water supply, irrigation, and hydropower. I seem to remember when dealing with Seattle City Light that for planning purposes they didn't count on any significant accumulation after March 31. Not because it doesn't snow after that date, but because the amount of snow after that date just doesn't add much in the way of acre-feet of runoff for reservoir refill. And reservoir refill is just about the most important thing in the world of water resource managers.
Well, the snow is pretty much gone in the Cascades, drought and abnormally dry conditions cover most of the state, and a whole lot of rivers are running much much lower than the median recorded flows for this time of year. It's almost like it's an actual drought in Washington. I hope we get more relatively cool and cloudy weather through August and September.
| U.S. Drought Monitor
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Washington water conditions - USGS Water Data for the Nation
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I had suspected back in December from Snow-Water Equivalent (SWE) accumulations at that time in the '2024 Fishing Aspirations' threadWell, the snow is pretty much gone in the Cascades, drought and abnormally dry conditions cover most of the state, and a whole lot of rivers are running much much lower than the median recorded flows for this time of year. It's almost like it's an actual drought in Washington. I hope we get more relatively cool and cloudy weather through August and September.
| U.S. Drought Monitor
Washington water conditions - USGS Water Data for the Nation
Explore USGS monitoring locations within Washington that collect continuously sampled water data
https://pnwflyfishing.com/forum/index.php?threads/2024-fishing-aspirations.6807/post-159001
that August would probably have low water conditions. Oh, and I am pleased to report that I have had some real good fishing in 2024!
Yesterday I spent some time in the Current Conditions for Washington_ Streamflow - USGS and National Water Prediction Service - NOAA (includes six day look-ahead for planning) websites for the rivers I have researched and fish often to check conditions and update my Favorites links after both websites' formats changed so the data I want to see is displayed with only one click. That includes full page, median, and previous year.
Sure 'nuff my fishing log records show the CFS for every stream I looked at yesterday except one tailwater is "too low", meaning fish were very spooky, holed up in the deepest (shallow) pools they can find and not very willing to take my flies on previous trips (probably all in August).
But rather surprisingly based on the December SWE, virtually (actually, I think every?) stream I looked at was very close to the median CFS and at a higher CFS than the same week in 2023.