100 Year Flood Plain???
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FinLuver
Native Oregonian…1846
Spring Fed levels stay pretty stable, provided there are not a lot of smaller streams running into above the bridge site, you should be pretty good… add a couple of feet in height for safe measures.
Old406Kid
Legend
The existing bridge is well above and if I was to move the bridge to the new location I could easily meet the 3' criteria as well.
It's just that if I have to go through all of the hoopla and expense involved it doesn't make it feasible for an occasionally used recreational property.
With that information, it seems like a hydrology engineer could calculate the maximum probable flood (MPF) for that area and compute the elevation needed at your preferred bridge site. Hydrology usually seems to be above the skill set of the county folks charged with making the decision, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if they are more hesitant than usual to decide anything. If possible, ask what engineers they have worked with previously. Often there is a . . . "Use Hunter; his plans always get approved." If there's one of these guys in your area, he's your guy.
Another possibility if it is property that is occasionally used and a small stream would be a "wet crossing." Counties do approve wet crossing of small streams if the prospective traffic is low.
I'm surprised that no one has suggested just selling the property because it is so little used. Let the next guy deal with the aggravation of permitting and building a new bridge, take the money and do something fun with it. I assume you are hanging onto the property for sentimental reasons rather than some actual usefulness.
I have been advising all of my friends over 70 to start now getting rid of of the mountain of stuff they have accumulated over the years. Later on it will become more difficult and will just complicate your life rather than enhance it. All you need in old age is health, food and enough money to live comfortably. A mountain of shit in the basement, attic, garage or storage building will just be an impediment. Speaking from experience at age 85...
I have been advising all of my friends over 70 to start now getting rid of of the mountain of stuff they have accumulated over the years. Later on it will become more difficult and will just complicate your life rather than enhance it. All you need in old age is health, food and enough money to live comfortably. A mountain of shit in the basement, attic, garage or storage building will just be an impediment. Speaking from experience at age 85...
Well said Ive. At age 53 I'm already getting stressed about the amount of "stuff" we have accumulated, often looking at it all and wondering "what would my plan be if I had to move next week, or next month?" It really is liberating to let go of things and reduce clutter.
It's ironic that when I was young I dreamed of a big shop full of tools, toys, cars and boats, but couldn't afford it at the time. Now that I'm at the point in life where I could afford to build, and fill, a giant toybox, I value the simplicity of not having it.
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Old406Kid
Legend
Believe me, that thought has crossed my mind more than once but at this point I'd still rather pass it on to the next generations.
Old406Kid
Legend
Tempting but the fines, if caught which is likely, are a lot more than just a slap on the wrist.
If the current crossing is posing an impediment or even a possible future impediment to the stream ecosystem in some way, you might be able to get grant assistance for removing the old bridge and upgrading the crossing, which could involve putting a new bridge in a better location. Is it in Washington? You might reach out to your local Conservation District to check in on how they can help. What you need is an environmental engineer and the CDs often have those on staff and they can work with you on a cost share basis, or possibly at least provide some free technical assistance. If this stream is fish bearing, and especially if it is salmon bearing, there's even better chances of you getting some help with this upgrade.
I understand the desire to pass it on to the next generation but be sure you are not just burdening them with something they have no intent to keep and pay property tax and upkeep on. I have seen many instances where parents left something they treasured to offspring that had no desire or need for it. "What the hell do I do with this stuff?" is the usual response. Most would prefer cash than having to liquidate a lot of items that are emotionally difficult to deal with.
Sometimes asking for forgiveness is easier than asking for permission in these things, sometimes not....
Do ya feel lucky ?
I wasn’t going to mention family issues, until I read this.
In my experience, “family dynamics” can create challenges with inheriting real estate. For example, if there are several siblings who already have difficulty in coming to agreement with other family decisions, there can be a lot of strife. Some may want to keep the property, some may want to sell. If the one(s) who want to keep the place can’t buy out the others, it creates a very difficult situation for all; into the future as well. Been there, done that.
Old406Kid, I wish you good luck with this situation.
Ive, wait . . . I always heard that "He who dies with the most toys wins!" I gotta' hang on to all my stuff so that I "win" when I finally cross the finish line. Right?
Wrong!!
