Women’s World Cup 2023

Brute said:
In the US, women’s soccer is played at a higher level than the men’s team…ditto for tennis…
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Woman's tennis is far more enjoyable to watch than men's tennis.

I do enjoy international men's soccer and European club soccer. The MLS is awful though and I would much rather watch woman's professional soccer than MLS or any other North American men's soccer.

Our men's team is improving slowly. It's remarkable that a country our size can't compete with England or Germany or France. The fact is, we can't and we are not even close.

The interesting thing with Women's sports is that the quality of the play for any country is directly proportional to the amount of rights that women have. It's like I tell my daughters, "There is no Saudi Arabian woman's soccer team."

There actually is a Saudi Arabian woman's soccer team although they stink.
 
I’m all for a level playing field as far as compensation. But revenue is driven by sales and advertising. The men’s sports historically bring in more revenue and have a larger fan base.
The women’s national teams compete well because they get a lot of support from the USA. Probably a lot more than most countries. I’m all for it but it’s not equivalent in comparison to men - just other women teams. I may have confused an earlier comment
 
Dr. Magill said:
I’m all for a level playing field as far as compensation. But revenue is driven by sales and advertising. The men’s sports historically bring in more revenue and have a larger fan base.
The women’s national teams compete well because they get a lot of support from the USA. Probably a lot more than most countries. I’m all for it but it’s not equivalent in comparison to men - just other women teams. I may have confused an earlier comment
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I don’t believe that’s correct in terms of US women’s soccer.
 
Dr. Magill said:
I’m all for a level playing field as far as compensation. But revenue is driven by sales and advertising. The men’s sports historically bring in more revenue and have a larger fan base.
The women’s national teams compete well because they get a lot of support from the USA. Probably a lot more than most countries. I’m all for it but it’s not equivalent in comparison to men - just other women teams. I may have confused an earlier comment
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I was only speaking of US women’s soccer & tennis in comparison to US Men’s soccer & tennis…
 
charles sullivan said:
Woman's tennis is far more enjoyable to watch than men's tennis.

I do enjoy international men's soccer and European club soccer. The MLS is awful though and I would much rather watch woman's professional soccer than MLS or any other North American men's soccer.

Our men's team is improving slowly. It's remarkable that a country our size can't compete with England or Germany or France. The fact is, we can't and we are not even close.

The interesting thing with Women's sports is that the quality of the play for any country is directly proportional to the amount of rights that women have. It's like I tell my daughters, "There is no Saudi Arabian woman's soccer team."

There actually is a Saudi Arabian woman's soccer team although they stink.
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The US must produce some good male soccer players. Aren't they the ones who go play on European teams?

Interesting remark about women's rights and quality of play. When I read that remark, I instantly wondered if there is a national Afghanistan women's soccer team. I just read the other day that the Taliban's Virtue and Vice Ministry is forcing all beauty shops to close.
 
Jake said:
That’s actually not entirely true. The women’s national teams have been deliberately under-televised, under-promoted, etc.

It’s true that that argument has been used to justify paying them less, though, but the same people promoting that argument are the same ones who have been under-promoting the women’s teams. It’s relatively easy to find the men’s teams on tv. Not so the women’s teams, despite the gains made this World Cup.

The Reign, for example, often can’t get televised unless they hit certain viewership/spectator targets, but they can’t hit those targets because they aren’t televised or promoted nearly as much. It’s a catch-22 not built by the players or the fans, but built and propagated by the corporations and organizations that be. Hopefully this year changes that a bit.

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Interesting. You're saying that the teams could promote and make more money, and as a result pay the women more, but the people who run things (and are also likely very wealthy and love making money) choose to not promote them and make more money intentionally?
 
Do they still have their danger haired leader? Last I heard they were sulking during the anthem. Hard pass.
 
Jake said:
I’m postulating that if women’s sports had been treated as men’s sports were from the beginning, things would be a lot more equal. There are a lot of factors at play, but popularity is a funny thing and it can totally be manufactured. Beanie Babies, bitcoin, and other things with no intrinsic value gain their value once people believe or are told they are to be valued.
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That is an opinion that we just aren't going to agree on.
All good though - good luck fishing!
 
FontinalisFin said:
Do they still have their danger haired leader? Last I heard they were sulking during the anthem. Hard pass.
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They act pretty much like the men during the anthem. They act pretty similar to this team representing our country:


Sulking? It looks like athletes preparing for a game to me.
 
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Hopefully this thread doesn't get locked by the few who clearly don't give a fuck. Smh
 
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