SE Alaska Creek Fishing Trip Report

Spent a wonderful 8 days visiting and cruising the inland waterways north of Sitka with an old friend who lives there. Our main interest was flyfishing the streams and their mouths for searun Dollies and Cutts. Although the quest was futile (runs were not yet occurring), I did learn a few things about fishing in that gorgeous and somewhat intimidating environment.

1) A deep respect for the ferocity of tides in a very complex system of channels and islands. Interesting and a bit overwhelming to a flatwater lake guy like myself.

2) A lot of rain, even in the 'best weather' time of the year...no surprises there; that's SE Alaska.

3) The short streams (often only a few miles long and fed by snowmelt/heavy rainfall) are quite sterile and do not appear to have resident trout, which makes complete sense since the the saltwater they discharge to teems with nourishing prey. The biological value of the stream completely revolves around spawning.

4) Devils Club grows in great tangles along the streams...with stalks up to 8 feet high covered with a dense coat of long thorns. The toughest waders are simply no match for these aptly named plants.

5) A species of blood sucking blackfly called 'White Socks' inhabit such environments, and are attracted in great numbers around anyone unfortunate to be out and about on a windless day. The 'honey badgers' of the dipteran world, they do not seem to be affected by DEET in any significant manner. I hate them and (like baldfaced hornets and yellow jackets), pray for the demise of their species even if it resulted in great ecological harm.

6) The streamsides are also thick with Giant Cow Parsnip, whose sap is capable of producing large blistering burns if subjected to sunlight. Clothing and skin is easily contaminated with the sap when busting through streamside brush. My Alaskan friend was far more concerned about potential exposure to Parsnip sap than contact with bears....

7) We saw several large (to me anyway) brown bears walking the tidal zones of the bays we were visiting. Some with cubs as big as our 'lower 48' black bears. There's something a bit unsettling about scrambling through thick brush, knowing that rather large predators are absolutely roaming about in one's immediate vicinity....as evidenced by coming across a recently vacated 'bear bed' the size of a VW.

I took some slight solace from the fact that my friend is an old Alaska hand, was equipped with a 454 Casull in a chest harness, and a bum leg. I suspect our streamside rambles were one of the few times he was grateful that my tendency (as he so delicately puts it) to 'never fucking shut up' was marginally useful as a bear deterrent. I was pointlessly equipped with a 45 automatic (roughly equivalent to a toddler's 'Busy Driver' toy in serious bear country) which might have useful to dispatch myself to save the bear some trouble.

In summary...I would go back in a heartbeat, but next time I hope some sort of searun salmonid run is occurring (although that's when the bears go streamfishing too!).
 
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Whitesox are viscous, some people react badly to their bite, seen fingers swell to size of an Italian sausage. Friend was hospitalized from them when trying to field dress a moose he’d shot on edge of a swamp.
Knowing you can outrun at least one other with you can be comforting.
what a great experience, hope you had crab and shrimp pots.
 
Whitesox are viscous, some people react badly to their bite, seen fingers swell to size of an Italian sausage. Friend was hospitalized from them when trying to field dress a moose he’d shot on edge of a swamp.
Knowing you can outrun at least one other with you can be comforting.
what a great experience, hope you had crab and shrimp pots.
We set out crab pots but only caught a couple. Even the commercial crabbers appeared to be having a slow start to their season.
 
,...was equipped with a 454 Casull in a chest harness and a bum leg...
You had me at bum leg...
😁
Sounds like a great time, with or without great fishing.
 
Yep SE Alaska is truly an amazing place and was fortunate to spend a few months guiding fly out trips from Sitka.

Only had 1 day dealing with those damn flies, voracious basturds.

Never heard about the parsnip issue, and had done a ton of bush wacking. Not a bear within miles from all the swearing coming out. And devils club is appropriately named!

There is resident Rainbows and Coastal Cutthroat, but not in all the rivers.

There is some monster Steelhead around as well. The lodge I worked at had a client land a Steelhead estimated at between 35-38 pounds and had a replica mont made. Truly a monster, and supposedly the smallest of the 3 in the pool o_O I have a picture somewhere of the mount.

Sergins Narrows is definitely a place one doesn't want to break down at!
 
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Yep SE Alaska is truly an amazing place and was fortunate to spend a few months guiding fly out trips from Sitka.

Only had 1 day dealing with those damn flies, voracious basturds.

Never heard about the parsnip issue, and had done a ton of bush wacking. Not a bear within miles from all the swearing coming out. And devils club is appropriately named!

There is resident Rainbows and Coastal Cutthroat, but not in all the rivers.

There is some monster Steelhead around as well. The lodge I worked at had a client land a Steelhead estimated at between 35-38 pounds and had a replica mont made. Truly a monster, and supposedly the smallest of the 3 in the pool o_O I have a picture somewhere of the mount.

Sergins Narrows is definitely a place one doesn't want to break down at!
We were careful to hit the Sergius Narrows at slack tide!
 
I’m in Sergius Narrows right now! I’ve been watching lots of salmon jumping over the last week and the purse seiners were working in Chatham when we were cruising through. Haven’t seen any salmon in the streams yet though. Lots of humpbacks and killer whales which makes me happy.

I agree that wandering around in bear territory can be spooky! We make a lot of noise and never go in groups smaller than five. We also skip the guns and go with bear spray. It’s far more effective if you actually need to defend yourself.
 
"45 ACP +P ammo is externally/dimensionally identical to 45 ACP ammo and can be fired in any 45 ACP firearm that is in normal operating condition. However, the greater pressures and power of the +P ammo will give you greater slide velocity and if you are going to shoot more than a box or two of +P ammo, you should consider replacing your recoil spring with a Wolf Spring that gives roughly 4 to 6 lbs more spring weight than factory stock springs."

If you have go down, at least do so pulling on a trigger..
 
I’m in Sergius Narrows right now! I’ve been watching lots of salmon jumping over the last week and the purse seiners were working in Chatham when we were cruising through. Haven’t seen any salmon in the streams yet though. Lots of humpbacks and killer whales which makes me happy.

I agree that wandering around in bear territory can be spooky! We make a lot of noise and never go in groups smaller than five. We also skip the guns and go with bear spray. It’s far more effective if you actually need to defend yourself.
A few photos from the three hour bushwhack I led earlier today. IMG_0003.jpegIMG_0000.jpegIMG_0011.jpeg
 
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We got a whole host of plants and animals up here that can mess your day up if you're not aware of your surroundings.

Sounds like you had fun, shame about the fish tho. Next time give me a call and I'll let you know where to be the first 2 weeks of july...it's been nothing short of epic so far, with more on the way!
 
I’m in Sergius Narrows right now! I’ve been watching lots of salmon jumping over the last week and the purse seiners were working in Chatham when we were cruising through. Haven’t seen any salmon in the streams yet though. Lots of humpbacks and killer whales which makes me happy.

I agree that wandering around in bear territory can be spooky! We make a lot of noise and never go in groups smaller than five. We also skip the guns and go with bear spray. It’s far more effective if you actually need to defend yourself.
We had bear spray as well, and it would have been our first choice to deter a problem bear.
 
Spent a wonderful 8 days visiting and cruising the inland waterways north of Sitka with an old friend who lives there. Our main interest was flyfishing the streams and their mouths for searun Dollies and Cutts. Although the quest was futile (runs were not yet occurring), I did learn a few things about fishing in that gorgeous and somewhat intimidating environment.

1) A respect for the ferocity of tides in a very complex system of channels and islands. Interesting and a bit overwhelming to a flatwater lake guy like myself.

2) A lot of rain, even in the 'best weather' time of the year...no surprises there; that's SE Alaska.

3) The short streams (often only a few miles long and fed by snowmelt/heavy rainfall) are quite sterile and do not appear to have resident trout, which makes complete sense since the the saltwater they discharge to teems with nourishing prey. The biological value of the stream completely revolves around spawning.

4) Devils Club grows in great tangles along the streams...with stalks up to 8 feet high covered with a dense coat of long thorns. The toughest waders are simply no match for these aptly named plants.

5) A species of blood sucking blackfly called 'White Socks' inhabit such environments, and are attracted in great numbers around anyone unfortunate to be out and about on a windless day. The 'honey badgers' of the dipteran world, they do not seem to be affected by DEET in any significant manner. I hate them and (like baldfaced hornets and yellow jackets), pray for the demise of their species even if it resulted in great ecological harm.

6) The streamsides are also thick with Giant Cow Parsnip, whose sap is capable of producing large blistering burns if subjected to sunlight. Clothing and skin is easily contaminated with the sap when busting through streamside brush. My Alaskan friend was far more concerned about potential exposure to Parsnip sap than contact with bears....

7) We saw several large (to me anyway) brown bears walking the tidal zones of the bays we were visiting. Some with cubs as big as our 'lower 48' black bears. There's something a bit unsettling about scrambling through thick brush, knowing that rather large predators are absolutely roaming about in one's immediate vicinity....as evidenced by coming across a recently vacated 'bear bed' the size of a VW.

I took some slight solace from the fact that my friend is an old Alaska hand, was equipped with a 454 Casull in a chest harness, and a bum leg. I suspect our streamside rambles were one of the few times he was grateful that my tendency (as he so delicately puts it) to 'never fucking shut up' was marginally useful as a bear deterrent. I was pointlessly equipped with a 45 automatic (roughly equivalent to a toddler's 'Busy Driver' toy in serious bear country) which might have useful to dispatch myself to save the bear some trouble.

In summary...I would go back in a heartbeat, but next time I hope some sort of searun salmonid run is occurring (although that's when the bears go streamfishing too).

I think I've spotted some heavy outcroppings of cow parsnip on the way to rock lake south of spokane, the cheney backroads way. Terrible stuff, would ruin your summer.

I'll admit, I feel accomplishment when overcoming suffering. Enough so to make shitty things worth it.
But to the average person, sounds like alaska would suck lol
 
I think I've spotted some heavy outcroppings of cow parsnip on the way to rock lake south of spokane, the cheney backroads way. Terrible stuff, would ruin your summer.

I'll admit, I feel accomplishment when overcoming suffering. Enough so to make shitty things worth it.
But to the average person, sounds like alaska would suck lol
There's Cow Parsnip all over North America, but I've personally never observed it growing so profusely as I did in SE Alaska.

As for feeling a sense of accomplishment overcoming suffering.....now in my 70's I much prefer avoiding it as much as possible. I'm far more risk averse in my senior years. The impending approach of the big dirt nap encourages me to more carefully balance risk and reward.
 
Spent a wonderful 8 days visiting and cruising the inland waterways north of Sitka with an old friend who lives there. Our main interest was flyfishing the streams and their mouths for searun Dollies and Cutts. Although the quest was futile (runs were not yet occurring), I did learn a few things about fishing in that gorgeous and somewhat intimidating environment.

1) A respect for the ferocity of tides in a very complex system of channels and islands. Interesting and a bit overwhelming to a flatwater lake guy like myself.

2) A lot of rain, even in the 'best weather' time of the year...no surprises there; that's SE Alaska.

3) The short streams (often only a few miles long and fed by snowmelt/heavy rainfall) are quite sterile and do not appear to have resident trout, which makes complete sense since the the saltwater they discharge to teems with nourishing prey. The biological value of the stream completely revolves around spawning.

4) Devils Club grows in great tangles along the streams...with stalks up to 8 feet high covered with a dense coat of long thorns. The toughest waders are simply no match for these aptly named plants.

5) A species of blood sucking blackfly called 'White Socks' inhabit such environments, and are attracted in great numbers around anyone unfortunate to be out and about on a windless day. The 'honey badgers' of the dipteran world, they do not seem to be affected by DEET in any significant manner. I hate them and (like baldfaced hornets and yellow jackets), pray for the demise of their species even if it resulted in great ecological harm.

6) The streamsides are also thick with Giant Cow Parsnip, whose sap is capable of producing large blistering burns if subjected to sunlight. Clothing and skin is easily contaminated with the sap when busting through streamside brush. My Alaskan friend was far more concerned about potential exposure to Parsnip sap than contact with bears....

7) We saw several large (to me anyway) brown bears walking the tidal zones of the bays we were visiting. Some with cubs as big as our 'lower 48' black bears. There's something a bit unsettling about scrambling through thick brush, knowing that rather large predators are absolutely roaming about in one's immediate vicinity....as evidenced by coming across a recently vacated 'bear bed' the size of a VW.

I took some slight solace from the fact that my friend is an old Alaska hand, was equipped with a 454 Casull in a chest harness, and a bum leg. I suspect our streamside rambles were one of the few times he was grateful that my tendency (as he so delicately puts it) to 'never fucking shut up' was marginally useful as a bear deterrent. I was pointlessly equipped with a 45 automatic (roughly equivalent to a toddler's 'Busy Driver' toy in serious bear country) which might have useful to dispatch myself to save the bear some trouble.

In summary...I would go back in a heartbeat, but next time I hope some sort of searun salmonid run is occurring (although that's when the bears go streamfishing too).
In New England, where Black Flies are the state bird of Maine, we use White Mountain Bug Dope. It stinks of citronella and is goopy, but it sure does work. I don't know about "White Sox", but suspect the White Mountain stuff would work. It is cheap and certainly worth a try.

 
"45 ACP +P ammo is externally/dimensionally identical to 45 ACP ammo and can be fired in any 45 ACP firearm that is in normal operating condition. However, the greater pressures and power of the +P ammo will give you greater slide velocity and if you are going to shoot more than a box or two of +P ammo, you should consider replacing your recoil spring with a Wolf Spring that gives roughly 4 to 6 lbs more spring weight than factory stock springs."

If you have go down, at least do so pulling on a trigger..
@SurfnFish Could I equip my 45 ACP Glock 30 with such a spring and would I find any other operational issues associated with such a modification when I shoot regular 45 ACP? My Glock 30 literally eats any sort of 45 ACP I've ever fed it, and I've always been of the opinion that the best handgun is the one an owner is most familiar with through frequent practice. I know I will never own a 454 Casull because I would never shoot it enough to become proficient.

I have no desire to harm any bear, and I'm well aware that any handgun used for such a purpose in bear self-defense would be last-ditch effort, even with a Casull.
 
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The head guide at the lodge I worked at had spent the prior 12 yrs in Bristol Bay and didn't carry a gun. One customer complained and he had to start carrying .50cal bear gun. It was at the bottom of his back pack and guided another 5 years with zero incidents. I carried a 45-70 lever action, but only seen a few GB from a long range and was never worried any place I went, but I guess the Dehavaland Beaver deterred a lot of bears!
 
@SurfnFish Could I equip my 45 ACP Glock 30 with such a spring and would I find any other operational issues associated with such a modification when I shoot regular 45 ACP? My Glock 30 literally eats any sort of 45 ACP I've ever fed it, and I've always been of the opinion that the best handgun is the one an owner is most familiar with through frequent practice. I know I will never own a 454 Casull because I would never shoot it enough to become proficient.

I have no desire to harm any bear, and I'm well aware that any handgun used for such a purpose in bear self-defense would be last-ditch effort, even with a Casull.
Plenty of examples over on the Glock forum where folks shoot +P with stock springs with zero issues. With the shorter barrel of the G30 would consider the spring upgrade just about mandatory to better manage range practice recoil.
If starting off 'fresh' with a handgun in Big Bear country, I would choose a G20 10mm, the sidearm of choice for the Sirius teams who patrol polar bear territory. Ran some +P rounds through a friends G20 at the range, very manageable recoil.

Regarding .45+P hardcasts:
The heavy for caliber Buffalo Bore Outdoorsman 255gr Flat nosed hard cast ammunition is as close to perfect for the purpose as what you’re likely to find. Traveling at 925fps and delivering 484ft-lbs of energy, this bullet brings the .45 ACP back into the game as a reliable bear stopper.

Penetration tests conducted in clear ballistic gel produced astounding penetration results. Remember that hollow-point ammo seldom passes the twenty-inch penetration mark when shot into a gel. The 255gr Buffalo Bore +P ammo exceeded fifty inches of penetration. Enough to make a brown bear change its mind when charging.

The buffalo Bore bullet has a flat nose which aids the bullet to cut its way through fur, fat, flesh, and bone and keeps the bullet on a straight path. The flat point also vastly reduces the odds of the bullet ricocheting off a bear’s skull even when striking it at an angle.

Even when striking bone, the hard cast lead will keep its shape far better than other .45 ACP lead bullets. The additional weights of the head at 255 grains, combined with the increased velocity, results in increased momentum, which in turn results in great penetration.
 
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