Yearly check ups... please

With our Aetna Medicare Rx plan, which costs us $80 a month each, it cost me $47.
With our $0 per month Aetna Med Advantage plan a one week per month 2x daily dose is $73. That's a heckuva deal if it's $2K without insurance!

I am taking a medication that put me in the Medicare donut hole causing the usual $0 annual cost of my other meds along with the new meds to skyrocket to over $900 annually. We both have VA disability medical benefits as a backup to our Medicare - Med Advantage plans. I asked my VA doc to duplicate the 'scrip my civilian electrophysiologist writes so it can be auto-filled through the VA pharmacy. That only costs $140 annually and keeps all my other meds at $0. 🫡
 
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I'm not sure why so many docs shy away from referring their patients for testing. It's not as though they have to pay for it.

The moral of these stories is that you must be your own advocate. If you feel that (additional) testing is important, insist on it! Nobody else will!
This cannot be emphasized enough. I happened to have chosen to live in what I have found to be a semi-rural area where the health care system is completely broken. That is in no way a condemnation of the nurses and doctors most of whom are trying their best to serve and treat their patients. It is a condemnation of a governmental reality that prioritizes corporate and billionaire profits over the welfare of the ordinary citizen. My former GP was tasked with not only trying to care for his patients but also be in charge of the new interns studying to be doctors and things often fall through the cracks. In 2016 I was given a PSA test and although the results were perhaps not immediately alarming I have subsequently learned that the PSA reading definitely warranted follow up testing in the somewhat near future. The numbers meant nothing to me and I put my faith in the doctor and the system to protect me. 6 years later I experienced some symptoms that prompted my new GP to have another PSA test done. By that time I had full blown prostate cancer that had metastasized and spread to lymph nodes which precluded any kind of surgical or radiological intervention so I am now trying to live with it through hormonal deprivation therapy that leaves me weak, tired and unable to do many of the activities that were a major part of my life. Had I known more when that first PSA test was done and insisted on follow up testing I would most likely be in an entirely different place right now and much more thoroughly enjoying the brief time I have left. Do your homework. The current system can definitely not be trusted. I wish I had been aware of that back when I thought I was bullet proof.
 
This cannot be emphasized enough. I happened to have chosen to live in what I have found to be a semi-rural area where the health care system is completely broken. That is in no way a condemnation of the nurses and doctors most of whom are trying their best to serve and treat their patients. It is a condemnation of a governmental reality that prioritizes corporate and billionaire profits over the welfare of the ordinary citizen. My former GP was tasked with not only trying to care for his patients but also be in charge of the new interns studying to be doctors and things often fall through the cracks. In 2016 I was given a PSA test and although the results were perhaps not immediately alarming I have subsequently learned that the PSA reading definitely warranted follow up testing in the somewhat near future. The numbers meant nothing to me and I put my faith in the doctor and the system to protect me. 6 years later I experienced some symptoms that prompted my new GP to have another PSA test done. By that time I had full blown prostate cancer that had metastasized and spread to lymph nodes which precluded any kind of surgical or radiological intervention so I am now trying to live with it through hormonal deprivation therapy that leaves me weak, tired and unable to do many of the activities that were a major part of my life. Had I known more when that first PSA test was done and insisted on follow up testing I would most likely be in an entirely different place right now and much more thoroughly enjoying the brief time I have left. Do your homework. The current system can definitely not be trusted. I wish I had been aware of that back when I thought I was bullet proof.
damn, that was hard to read, wishing you the absolute best going forward.
 
This cannot be emphasized enough. I happened to have chosen to live in what I have found to be a semi-rural area where the health care system is completely broken. That is in no way a condemnation of the nurses and doctors most of whom are trying their best to serve and treat their patients. It is a condemnation of a governmental reality that prioritizes corporate and billionaire profits over the welfare of the ordinary citizen. My former GP was tasked with not only trying to care for his patients but also be in charge of the new interns studying to be doctors and things often fall through the cracks. In 2016 I was given a PSA test and although the results were perhaps not immediately alarming I have subsequently learned that the PSA reading definitely warranted follow up testing in the somewhat near future. The numbers meant nothing to me and I put my faith in the doctor and the system to protect me. 6 years later I experienced some symptoms that prompted my new GP to have another PSA test done. By that time I had full blown prostate cancer that had metastasized and spread to lymph nodes which precluded any kind of surgical or radiological intervention so I am now trying to live with it through hormonal deprivation therapy that leaves me weak, tired and unable to do many of the activities that were a major part of my life. Had I known more when that first PSA test was done and insisted on follow up testing I would most likely be in an entirely different place right now and much more thoroughly enjoying the brief time I have left. Do your homework. The current system can definitely not be trusted. I wish I had been aware of that back when I thought I was bullet proof.
I am so sorry you're having to go through this. My wife and I have learned to do the homework you suggested and be our own advocates.

I had a PSA test in Dec 2021 for an annual physical that was at 3, which MyChart, Google search results, and the Doc said is generally considered within the low-to-normal range.

6 months later I saw my internist PCP for a weak urine stream. He wanted another PSA done. It was at 11 and I got the results from MyChart the same day and double checked with Google to find out that was not good. The PCP called the next day saying he had referred me for a biopsy.

I got the results from the biopsy with a Gleason score of 6 and looked that up too. I knew I had cancer before hearing back from the Urologist. He advised us that it was slow growing, there were some risks to the treatment, and I didn't need to do anything at that time. But I am the first and only one in my family to be diagnosed with cancer and we couldn't stand the thought of having cancer in me. So I asked to be referred a Radiation Oncologist for a consult.

He said I was a good candidate for hdr brachytherapy. A month later I received 2 treatments a week apart. The recovery over the next 2 weeks was kind of "icky" and there has been some after effects that we are OK living with. At one year my PSA was at 0.7, and my last PSA was 0.3. I will be seeing the Oncologist and Urologist every 6 months for 5 years before they can truly call me "cancer free", but the prognosis looks very promising.

So far I am a poster child for regular checkups, testing, and advocating for myself if things bog down.
 
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Hey @Wanative well that sucks! Glad you caught it and taking care of it! Everybody's journey is different, and even an easy journey is hard!

Stay positive, get exercise, meditate if you do it just find quite time daily, get the best sleep you can. And go fishing as much add you can.

I will be praying for you and your family! Toy got this!
Thanks Shawn. I'm doing those things will stay on top of it. I appreciate the prayers.
Fred
 
I am so sorry you're having to go through this. My wife and I have learned to do the homework you suggested and be our own advocates.

I had a PSA test in Dec 2021 for an annual physical that was at 3, which MyChart, Google search results, and the Doc said is generally considered within the low-to-normal range.

6 months later I saw my internist PCP for a weak urine stream. He wanted another PSA done. It was at 11 and I got the results from MyChart the same day and double checked with Google to find out that was not good. The PCP called the next day saying he had referred me for a biopsy.

I got the results from the biopsy with a Gleason score of 6 and looked that up too. I knew I had cancer before hearing back from the Urologist. He advised us that it was slow growing, there were some risks to the treatment, and I didn't need to do anything at that time. But I am the first and only one in my family to be diagnosed with cancer and we couldn't stand the thought of having cancer in me. So I asked to be referred a Radiation Oncologist for a consult.

He said I was a good candidate for hdr brachytherapy. A month later I received 2 treatments a week apart. The recovery over the next 2 weeks was kind of "icky" and there has been some after affects that we are OK living with. At one year my PSA was at 0.7, and my last PSA was 0.3. I will be seeing the Oncologist and Urologist every 6 months for 5 years before they can truly call me "cancer free", but the prognosis looks very promising.

So far I am a poster child for regular checkups, testing, and advocating for myself if things bog down.
Nice work on your own behalf.
Sounds like you were very diligent.
 
Damn this is a rough thread to read , but a good one never the less for everyone reading this to keep up on the yearly or bi yearly check ups . This prostate thing cannot be emphasized enough to keep an eye on , especially with us older men , but no age should be ignoring these things just because they are younger . I think way back it was 40 to start with the prostate check , I don't know if that holds true now , but check up's can't hurt for any age .

Best wishes for everyone having some problem things will turn out alright .
 
I echo what's been said, and the good thoughts towards Albula!

Some months back I came down with prostatitis, which (among other things) caused my PSA to rocket to just below 40! After a course of antibiotics I asked for a follow-up referral to a urologist, which led to my requesting an MRI, which led to a biopsy. Fortunately all samples turned out to be benign. I had to request the referral and the imaging. I shudder to think what might have been if I hadn't insisted and the results had been different.

I'd recommend against blindly trusting one's own doctor or 'Dr. Google'. There's enough good and bad information out there to give anyone nightmares.
 
This cannot be emphasized enough. I happened to have chosen to live in what I have found to be a semi-rural area where the health care system is completely broken. That is in no way a condemnation of the nurses and doctors most of whom are trying their best to serve and treat their patients. It is a condemnation of a governmental reality that prioritizes corporate and billionaire profits over the welfare of the ordinary citizen. My former GP was tasked with not only trying to care for his patients but also be in charge of the new interns studying to be doctors and things often fall through the cracks. In 2016 I was given a PSA test and although the results were perhaps not immediately alarming I have subsequently learned that the PSA reading definitely warranted follow up testing in the somewhat near future. The numbers meant nothing to me and I put my faith in the doctor and the system to protect me. 6 years later I experienced some symptoms that prompted my new GP to have another PSA test done. By that time I had full blown prostate cancer that had metastasized and spread to lymph nodes which precluded any kind of surgical or radiological intervention so I am now trying to live with it through hormonal deprivation therapy that leaves me weak, tired and unable to do many of the activities that were a major part of my life. Had I known more when that first PSA test was done and insisted on follow up testing I would most likely be in an entirely different place right now and much more thoroughly enjoying the brief time I have left. Do your homework. The current system can definitely not be trusted. I wish I had been aware of that back when I thought I was bullet proof.
Hey Albula, I am really sorry to read your story and know I will be praying for you!

Stay strong, stay positive especially on hard days, enjoy every day!

Thanks for sharing!
 
This cannot be emphasized enough. I happened to have chosen to live in what I have found to be a semi-rural area where the health care system is completely broken. That is in no way a condemnation of the nurses and doctors most of whom are trying their best to serve and treat their patients. It is a condemnation of a governmental reality that prioritizes corporate and billionaire profits over the welfare of the ordinary citizen. My former GP was tasked with not only trying to care for his patients but also be in charge of the new interns studying to be doctors and things often fall through the cracks. In 2016 I was given a PSA test and although the results were perhaps not immediately alarming I have subsequently learned that the PSA reading definitely warranted follow up testing in the somewhat near future. The numbers meant nothing to me and I put my faith in the doctor and the system to protect me. 6 years later I experienced some symptoms that prompted my new GP to have another PSA test done. By that time I had full blown prostate cancer that had metastasized and spread to lymph nodes which precluded any kind of surgical or radiological intervention so I am now trying to live with it through hormonal deprivation therapy that leaves me weak, tired and unable to do many of the activities that were a major part of my life. Had I known more when that first PSA test was done and insisted on follow up testing I would most likely be in an entirely different place right now and much more thoroughly enjoying the brief time I have left. Do your homework. The current system can definitely not be trusted. I wish I had been aware of that back when I thought I was bullet proof.
I pray for you. I know a bit about fighting cancer. Try to stay as positive as possible. Lean on your family and friends. Hopefully you have trust in your medical team.

Currently in my third fight with cancer. I have been doing this for over 12 years. I have destroyed the odds. The hardest part of the battle has been the insurance companies and the hospital bureaucracies. Our current system of medical care is broken. It kills people unnecessarily. I have seen numerous cancer patients give up not because the treatments were unbearable but because the medical care machine was grinding them up and they didn’t want to bankrupt their families. The system is designed to squeeze every dime out of you that it can then let you die.
 
There are several different thoughts and threads of information which are all very important. They intersect at various times and importance.

Our own self-protection mechanism overriding the acceptance of not having the clarity of acceptance of reality happens all the time. We; spouses, parents, children, close friends and people in the industry being involved can not be underestimated.

The importance of second opinions can not be underestimated.

Not asking the right questions happens all the time. I know the internet can be taboo regarding good information. IMHO, skip anything labeled 'sponsor '. Go to sites/sources like Mayo Clinic, Cleveland Clinic, NIH and CDC. AI is suspect at the current time because it espouses bad info.

Questioning about test results, path forward, options, alternatives, prognosis are important.

Unemotional review of information and facts are also very important.

It is not up to each of us but rather the the support system around us that is important.

This may sound glitzy and not real nor applicable to you. My family and I have experienced it all recently.

My MIL was in the ER and her medical conglomerate would not share any information to help. My wife took over the roll of being her advocate. Second opinions are important and helped the MIL.

i went to Emergent Care recently and needed to go to ER immediately, I wanted to go to a different medical conglomerate, she called the triage focal that i was coming and provided the referral.

My PCP has provided numerous referrals to specialists because it exceeded her area of expertise.

They are all more focused on my well-being than on the conglomerate they were associated with.

My SIL was Evacuated from MT to SEA recently. Obviously different conglomerate medical organizations. They provided teams supporting from multiple states for her care.

Step up, provide support even if your beyond comfort zone. Please...
 
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My PCP has provided numerous referrals to specialists because it exceeded her area of expertise.

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Aside from performing routine physicals and responding to illnesses, the most important role of a primary care physician is being able to promptly refer their patients to the appropriate specialists whenever something outside the scope of the PCP is evident.
My wife recently went through hiatal hernia repair, and her first question to the doctor after both a CT and scope verified the issue was "what surgeon would you have perform this operation if it was either you or your wife requiring it?"
Manage your healthcare like your life depends on it.
 
Aside from performing routine physicals and responding to illnesses, the most important role of a primary care physician is being able to promptly refer their patients to the appropriate specialists whenever something outside the scope of the PCP is evident.
My wife recently went through hiatal hernia repair, and her first question to the doctor after both a CT and scope verified the issue was "what surgeon would you have perform this operation if it was either you or your wife requiring it?"
Manage your healthcare like your life depends on it.
When I had hip replacement surgery done 13 years ago my PCP had recently researched every orthopedic surgeon - hip specialist in the region for his wife's hip surgery. The Doc was, and still is a true artist in his specialty. I see him every 6-7 years for follow-up exams to check wear and for my other hip.

Another thing I believe is a good idea for those of us who are "seniors". I had to change PCPs a few years ago because mine retired. He suggested at my age ~68, and with my medical history, I find PCP who was also an "Internist".


Oh, and another thing he suggested was to find an Internist who is ~20-25 years younger than I am 😉 .
 
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